Looking for a proven Hereford AI Sire

[SEA]

Cyrus and Currency are both pretty cool Moler sons. I'm definitely not a Hereford producer, but I look at a lot of show cattle, and if you can find a SOUND Moler, they are among some of the best show cattle out there, of any breed.   Does anyone know of any Purple Milsap calves on the ground yet? His picture makes him look like one that could flat produce Hereford show steers.

J3cattleco's Big Jake bull was impressive at Denver, even though he's not registered either.  He could be the ticket on Angus females.

Is Big Jake the Rawhide son discussed here on Steer Planet back in January before the NWSS?

If so how did he look?  And what is his dam?

 

[shortyjock89]

I believe so.  He looked really good out at NWSS, really thick.  I think the only thing that would turn people off from him is that he's not registered.  But, if you're crossbreeding your cows anyhow, I think he might work pretty good.  I don't remember what his momma is, but I bet if J3 gets on here, he could tell ya.

 

[TMJ Show Cattle]

Don't know the frame score of FOCUS,but have seen calves. They were real showy as most of Orrell's are. One of the hot topics in Okla. and Tex. is the "hereford Looking" bull that Collins is promoting with Kris Black. Haven't seen or heard of anyone making Hereford /Angus hybrids in recent years,although there should be more of them trying.I do know afeller in Texas that has really good luck crossing Maines with Herefords,keeps the hereford colored heifers for replacements. They have hereford characteristics with more muscle and style. After they have their second calf,he breeds Red Neck/White or with very little roan Shorthorns and most of the calves come looking hereford marked,and get very expensive pretty quickly. That's what I like about the Texas and Okla. shows,no classification to speak of. Kind of like the old days driving dirt track sprint cars....Run whatcha Brung!!..P.S. Greg Kroupa is using this bull also.To some folks,that means something.

 

[SEA]

A friend of mine spoke with Tim Ohlde this weekend.  He said that Tim now has a Hereford bull that he calls "3119".  He said that the bull sires 4.0-4.5 frame cattle that are extremely deep and will stay fat on grass.  He did say that they are not as thick as his Angus cattle.  He is breeding them to his Angus II cows, the ones with some Beef Friesien in them, to produce Black Baldies.  He is expecting 40 calves out of him in the Spring.  Tim said that 3119 came from a Trausch (sp), in South Carolina, and that they have had a closed herd for 50 years.

 

[PLKR]

Just a guess, but that may be "Trask" --they have specialized in that type of Hereford cattle for decades.

 

[knabe]

http://sustainablegenetics.com/bulls/4013p.html

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=53558&start=0            (scroll down for pic)

http://www.bakewellrepro.com/bulls/hereford132.html

http://www.schereford.com/news.html

http://texashistory.unt.edu/data/AMON2007/CTRM/box_02/meta-pth-43942.tkl

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,886880,00.html          (reluctant rupert)

 

[SEA]

http://sustainablegenetics.com/bulls/4013p.html

http://www.cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=53558&start=0            (scroll down for pic)

http://www.bakewellrepro.com/bulls/hereford132.html

http://www.schereford.com/news.html

http://texashistory.unt.edu/data/AMON2007/CTRM/box_02/meta-pth-43942.tkl

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,886880,00.html          (reluctant rupert)

Thank you knabe!  I looked up and read all six.  Very interesting and informative reading.  I appreciate the reply.

 

[Tooker]

I know you are looking for older proven bulls but those two new Herfs that Trausch's are promoting, Cyrus and Baton Rouge, fit your description perfectly. They are nice.

I just got a maternal sib to all of the hereford bulls @ Trausch Farms from Chris Wilson and she is awesome! That cow has not missed and you won't be disappointed with the clubby making daughters! Good Luck! Give Chris a call for reccomendations.

 

[SEA]

Anyone seen any Purple Milsap calves?

Thank you everyone!  This has been an awesome post!!

 

[PLKR]

Refer to our ealier post regarding the Milsap calves.  Was it Trask that you were looking for? 

 

[Herf]

Everyone knows of the time tested advantages of the proven cross of a Hereford bull onto an Angus cow mating, with the resulting baldy calf.  Nuf said.

My question is...if you have the "right" angus cow and the "right" Hereford bull, can you produce really good club calf cows?  Or is it impossible for these two breeds to produce the right "type" cow for club calf production.  I am considering trying the cross and would like all the input I can get.

I have a cow that I think is pretty good and have flushed previously.  I purchased her from Tim Ohlde.  She is about 15/16 angus or higher.  She is a OCC Legend x OCC Jetstream X OCC Glory and in an approx.  4.5 frame.  Thick, deep, and good fronted, with good conformation.  I am considering flushing her to a Hereford bull.

I am looking for an older proven Hereford bull.  A rugged built bull with some maternal behind him.  No more than a 6.5 frame, preferably a 6.0 frame.  He needs to have a big top and butt, deep body, medium to heavy bone, good front, and a big foot.  I know there were some "Horned" Herefords of old, from the West, that fit this description however, I am not a Hereford breeder and not knowledgeable in the breed and their older bulls.

That's why I came to you all for help and advice.

I will appreciate whatever comments you may have.  Thanks,

 

[Herf]

We have 1 really nice Milsap bull calf. He is real stout and has alot of shape and bone. Another new bull is Deal or no Deal he is a29F son out of a  Natinal champion cow. His picture is at Jim Reeds website.