I have 2 steer calves out of him. Both have a lot of body, great foot size , and ample thickness. I'm actually going to break one of them for a show steer. Would have the other also if he would have the hair as the one I'm breaking. Both calves are structurally sound also. I will use him again. He may have added a touch of frame on my 2 calves as well. A small sample I know but there u have it.