N Bar Emulation EXT (59) over TC Stockman 365 (45)

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N Bar Emulation EXT

vs

TC Stockman 365

 

[afhm]

This is a tough one.

 

[HerefordGuy]

This is a tough one.

I agree!

 

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[Cattledog]

I don't even think it's close.  EXT in a heartbeat.  Just wish his calves didn't go through so many fences!

 

[xxcc]

I don't even think it's close.  EXT in a heartbeat.  Just wish his calves didn't go through so many fences!

the latter is exactly why i don't think it's a hard choice.  also, how many good sires are EXT descendants?, as opposed to Stockman 365...northern improvement, tc freeddom, etc. 

 

[the angus111]

EXT FOR YEARS LED IN REGISTRATIONS AND HAS A DISPOSITION ISSUE,BUT I HEAR THAT NET WORTH COULD BE TAKING THAT POSITION AWAY.SO DO YOU BASE THIS ON REGISTRATIONS AND PROVEN PROGENY OR DISPOSITION.RUSTY

 

[Cattledog]

I don't even think it's close.  EXT in a heartbeat.  Just wish his calves didn't go through so many fences!

the latter is exactly why i don't think it's a hard choice.  also, how many good sires are EXT descendants?, as opposed to Stockman 365...northern improvement, tc freeddom, etc. 

I am willing to bet there are more sires that trace back to EXT than 365.  EXT has always been known for his great females...more so than 365.  With him leeding in registrations for I think it was 4 or 5 years.  You will definitely see more sires with his influence.  People are going back to him now since all of the problems with the defects.  I have seen more EXTs this year than in the recent past.

 

[MYT Farms]

I don't even think it's close.  EXT in a heartbeat.  Just wish his calves didn't go through so many fences!

the latter is exactly why i don't think it's a hard choice.  also, how many good sires are EXT descendants?, as opposed to Stockman 365...northern improvement, tc freeddom, etc. 

I am willing to bet there are more sires that trace back to EXT than 365.  EXT has always been known for his great females...more so than 365.  With him leeding in registrations for I think it was 4 or 5 years.  You will definitely see more sires with his influence.   People are going back to him now since all of the problems with the defects.  I have seen more EXTs this year than in the recent past.

I think cattle dog has a good point. Really, a bull that can make a good cow is really important. We have some of him and I'm setting aside a couple females for him next summer. I'd rather have a cow that does it herself and blows snot on me when I tag her calf than one that's really gentle and has to be babied. Not saying 365 cows have to be pampered, but EXT does some good things.

 

[Dusty]

365 has more hair

 

[the angus111]

I KNEW IT WOULD COME TO HAIR.WOW! RUSTY

 

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[Chap]

muscle, bone, hair, balance and overall appeal go to 365.  Everyone has differnt needs, but for me 365 wins.  I would venture to guess that 365 shows up in more phenotype cattle pedigrees and EXT is in more performance pedigrees.  I can't sell cattle without look, so my vote is for 365

 

[Show Steaks]

In our herd its opposite... we have more "showy" EXT cows than 365.... Ext has alot of nice daughters. who are his nice sons?...................365 sire of freedom and nother improvment and grandsire of the infamous lutton...... 365 is more the terminal side of the show ring and ext is the momma's those calves come out of....EXT vs 365  & anchor vs NI are probabbly the hardest match ups just so good for diffrent reasons...............................................I chose EXT my father said 365

 

[Cattledog]

BTW, Freedom is out of a 365 cow.  Did everyone forget that Ext sired Saugahatchee and that Bando 1961 is out of a direct daughter of EXT?  Ext is also in the pedigree of Limestone darkhorse.  These are three that just happened to come to mind.  I remember when the EXT's first were shown.  They were freaks and won alot.  With his disposition you have to wonder how many good ones weren't able to be shown!  (lol)

 

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[jbw]

This is not hard at all, EXT wins by a mile. I have used roughly 500 units of EXT and about 80 of 365. The 365 cow don't have as good of bags and they do not breed as well. I only have 1 365 cow left in the herd!!!  Way mor bulls go back to EXT. To touch on the disposition, the EXT cows that I have kept do not have disposition problems, except 1.  We have purchased 5 365 sons and every one of them you could not trust. 

I liked the way that 365 sons bred more consistant than their sire, Northern Improvement in my herd was a much better and more consistant sire than 365, but, they are not as complete and versitile as EXT.