RSC
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Just currious? Looking more and more like they might be starting to lean towards the SEC. The question is will OU go with them? Just wondering what your hearing?
Tony
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NC; Jeff is A & M headed to the SEC???
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I have been reading for weeks that no one in the SEC is interested in expansion, none of the Presidents, none of the AD's, none of the coaches. It's going to good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it seems to be the theme. Unless the Big 10 becomes the big 16, the SEC will not feel pressured to expand.
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Not getting my hopes up but Mike Slive was in College Station yesterday and I doubt it was to congratulate A&M on winning the men's and women's track national championships two years in a row.
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This article by a guy who can barely waste time to mention A&M any other time of the year other than Thanksgiving sums up my opinion nicely...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/columnists/buck_harvey/Go_east_Aggies_Gamble_worth_it_96232094.html?c=y&page=1#storytop
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/columnists/buck_harvey/Go_east_Aggies_Gamble_worth_it_96232094.html?c=y&page=1#storytop
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I think that if the sec wants to keep up with the expansion they would need to act now before all the best schools are gone. If they act now they might get OU and A&M, if they wait the pac 10 gets them and who does the SEC go after then?
RSC
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The reason I asked if the SEC could happen was after reading the info below. Just wondered what others were hearing.
Tony
From Orangebloods.com: A&M to SEC looks solid, and possibly OU. Reply
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Here their Saturday update. I should also mention that there is real fear now amongst Texas fans about the possibility of OU also going to the SEC. As one of the posters put it, "We're f'ed." They are gonna lobby like made to keep OU with them, because without the Sooners, the move to the Pac-10 is no longer palatable. They'd have to come crawling to the Big Ten.
Anyway, here's the post:
Multiple sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas A&M has enough votes on its nine-member Board of Regents to join the Southeastern Conference and could announce that move as soon as next week.
The sources said A&M and SEC commissioner Mike Slive are now working feverishly to convince Oklahoma to join the SEC with the Aggies rather than follow Texas to the Pac-10.
Sources said Slive was meeting with A&M officials on Saturday.
There is speculation among several sources in the Big 12 that if OU had to choose between the Pac-10 and SEC, it would choose the SEC. But sources close to OU say, up to this point, the Sooners have made a decision to go with Texas and not break up one of college football's most unique rivalries.
Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione was quoted in the Tulsa World last week saying the Sooners are committed to going where Texas goes.
Sources close to the SEC/Texas A&M talks say Oklahoma is still listening to proposals from the SEC. But the sources said the SEC is not interested in Oklahoma State. Trying to split OU and Oklahoma State could cause resistance in the Oklahoma Legislature, which appears to have more members who've graduated from OSU than OU, according to an informal count.
A&M APPEARS COMMITTED TO SEC
A&M's charge to the SEC is being led by Texas A&M System chancellor Mike McKinney and A&M regent Gene Stallings, who won a national title as coach at Alabama in 1992. That charge includes the argument to Oklahoma that it's better to join the SEC from a regional, financial and athletic standpoint than it is to go west to the Pac-10.
A call to Gov. Rick Perry's office Saturday by Orangebloods.com resulted in a statement from Perry released by spokesman Rob Johnson. The quotes from Perry in the statement were the same he made to the Austin American-Statesman on Thursday.
"We'll let the board of regents at the appropriate universities make the decisions," Perry said. "If it was up to me, I'd have an all-Texas conference.
"I kind of like the old Southwest Conference. But at the end of the day, it will be decisions that each individual university will make."
Sources close to Perry had initially indicated Perry would work to keep Texas and Texas A&M together. But that no longer appears to be the case. When he was asked specifically by the Statesman if Texas and A&M should stay together, Perry said:
"I think to try to sit here and try to play out every scenario that you or anybody else can come up with is not particularly productive. I think what is productive is for boards of regents to be thoughtful; to make wise, good decisions for the university."
It doesn't take binoculars to read between those lines - Perry appears to be letting McKinney, his former chief of staff, do what he thinks is best. Stallings said this week on different radio shows he thinks A&M can stand alone without Texas.
Sources close to Texas have indicated if A&M doesn't stay aligned with Texas in a move to the Pac-10, the Longhorns would not be scheduling A&M in any sport any time soon.
If so, the opening line to the Texas A&M fight song (which is almost entirely about Texas), "Good-bye to Texas University ...", could be taken quite literally.
Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott met with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State officials on Saturday in Oklahoma City before meeting with Texas A&M officials on Sunday, sources said.
A meeting of the Big 12 South athletic directors with Larry Scott is tentatively planned for Monday in Dallas, sources said.
LAST-DITCH EFFORT TO SAVE 10-MEMBER BIG 12
With A&M's talks with the SEC heating up; OU's position possibly, suddenly unclear; and Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State all seemingly firm in their commitment to joining the Pac-10; there appears to be wild, last-second maneuvering to hold the 10 remaining Big 12 schools together.
The effort is being led by commissioner Dan Beebe to show proof of a future television agreement for the 10 remaining schools in the Big 12 on par with the SEC that would preserve individual school's rights to launch their own distribution platforms, including networks.
Beebe would only tell Orangebloods.com on Saturday, "I'm working tirelessly to make a compelling case for our institutions to remain together. I'm trying to present them with proof that shows these 10 institutions are worth more together than if they joined other conferences."
Sources said that proof from Beebe is believed to be assurances from one or more media experts that a 10-member Big 12 can still achieve a TV deal that would pay on par with the SEC's $17 million per school - while also preserving schools' rights to explore their own networks.
Multiple sources have said Texas will finalize plans to join the Pac-10 at a regents meeting planned for Tuesday in Austin. Up to this point, OU, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech have privately vowed to go where Texas goes.
Two Big 12 sources said Texas president Bill Powers, a California-Berkeley graduate, has been the driving force in convincing UT's nine-member regents board the Longhorns' future belongs in the Pac-10.
Those sources say they don't know if Powers would be willing to consider any alternatives that would keep the 10 Big 12 schools together - even if there's proof a possible TV deal on par with the SEC ($17 million) could be reached AND still allow UT and other schools to have an individual network.
Two Big 12 sources say all the athletic directors in the Big 12 South, including Texas A&M's Bill Byrne and Texas' DeLoss Dodds, favor holding the remaining 10 schools together.
But that A&M System Chancellor Mike McKinney and Powers may not be able to be talked back to the table.
"If there's evidence we can be more valuable as a 10-member league than as a 12-member league, and you're going to get to have your own TV network, why would you subject your school to all the travel required in the Pac-10?" said one top official at another Big 12 school.
"We just lost our two worst basketball programs (Nebraska and Colorado). We could play nine conference games in football and choose to have the championship game or not, depending on what Texas wants. The two coaches who always hated the conference title game the most were Mack Brown and Bob Stoops. I think the rest of us would be willing to go with that they wanted."
Messages left by Orangebloods.com with OU, A&M and Texas officials were not immediately returned.
TAPPING THE BRAKES?
Texas Rep. Dan Branch (R-Dallas), who heads the House Higher Education Committee, wants to slow everything down and determine if decisions involving Texas schools in potential conference realignment are being made for the right reasons.
Branch is calling for hearings on Wednesday morning and told Orangebloods.com on Saturday that he'll invite the presidents from Texas, Texas Tech and Texas A&M as well as presidents from Baylor, TCU, SMU, Rice, Houston, UTEP and North Texas.
Branch also plans to invite Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky and possibly even Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott.
Branch said he also wants to hear testimony from some economists about the long-term financial impact of having major universities in Texas leave the Big 12.
"There's a lot of questions about the look to the west and how that affects multiple sports programs and students and what kind of dollars are involved," said Branch, who attended Oklahoma Christian as an undergrad and SMU law school.
"Why does it make sense to go so quickly? Does it make sense to look west versus east and what are the options?
"We're talking about changing the habits of a lot of students, and apparently there's a lot of money in play. These are important public assets, our universities. So the members have some questions because it's caused considerable interest, questions, e-mail traffic and blogging that has ended up in the members' districts.
"It's not just being driven by Baylor, which is obviously making a strong push among its alumni around the state. But also the alumni of SMU, TCU, the University of Houston. And we've got people at Texas A&M and even at Tech and Texas who have questions.
"Maybe it is a good thing to move this quickly and this fast. And maybe it is a good thing to have a group of Texas schools go to the Pac-10. But if it is, let's lay out the case before the public."
Branch said House Appropriations Committee chairman Jim Pitts (R-Waxahachie) and Texas House Speaker Joe Straus (R-San Antonio) would also sit in on the hearings.
"We're not trying to micromanage," Branch said. "But on the other hand, we're trying to get plenty of transparency because we're getting a lot of pushback at a lot of questions."
Stay tuned.
Tony
From Orangebloods.com: A&M to SEC looks solid, and possibly OU. Reply
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Here their Saturday update. I should also mention that there is real fear now amongst Texas fans about the possibility of OU also going to the SEC. As one of the posters put it, "We're f'ed." They are gonna lobby like made to keep OU with them, because without the Sooners, the move to the Pac-10 is no longer palatable. They'd have to come crawling to the Big Ten.
Anyway, here's the post:
Multiple sources tell Orangebloods.com Texas A&M has enough votes on its nine-member Board of Regents to join the Southeastern Conference and could announce that move as soon as next week.
The sources said A&M and SEC commissioner Mike Slive are now working feverishly to convince Oklahoma to join the SEC with the Aggies rather than follow Texas to the Pac-10.
Sources said Slive was meeting with A&M officials on Saturday.
There is speculation among several sources in the Big 12 that if OU had to choose between the Pac-10 and SEC, it would choose the SEC. But sources close to OU say, up to this point, the Sooners have made a decision to go with Texas and not break up one of college football's most unique rivalries.
Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione was quoted in the Tulsa World last week saying the Sooners are committed to going where Texas goes.
Sources close to the SEC/Texas A&M talks say Oklahoma is still listening to proposals from the SEC. But the sources said the SEC is not interested in Oklahoma State. Trying to split OU and Oklahoma State could cause resistance in the Oklahoma Legislature, which appears to have more members who've graduated from OSU than OU, according to an informal count.
A&M APPEARS COMMITTED TO SEC
A&M's charge to the SEC is being led by Texas A&M System chancellor Mike McKinney and A&M regent Gene Stallings, who won a national title as coach at Alabama in 1992. That charge includes the argument to Oklahoma that it's better to join the SEC from a regional, financial and athletic standpoint than it is to go west to the Pac-10.
A call to Gov. Rick Perry's office Saturday by Orangebloods.com resulted in a statement from Perry released by spokesman Rob Johnson. The quotes from Perry in the statement were the same he made to the Austin American-Statesman on Thursday.
"We'll let the board of regents at the appropriate universities make the decisions," Perry said. "If it was up to me, I'd have an all-Texas conference.
"I kind of like the old Southwest Conference. But at the end of the day, it will be decisions that each individual university will make."
Sources close to Perry had initially indicated Perry would work to keep Texas and Texas A&M together. But that no longer appears to be the case. When he was asked specifically by the Statesman if Texas and A&M should stay together, Perry said:
"I think to try to sit here and try to play out every scenario that you or anybody else can come up with is not particularly productive. I think what is productive is for boards of regents to be thoughtful; to make wise, good decisions for the university."
It doesn't take binoculars to read between those lines - Perry appears to be letting McKinney, his former chief of staff, do what he thinks is best. Stallings said this week on different radio shows he thinks A&M can stand alone without Texas.
Sources close to Texas have indicated if A&M doesn't stay aligned with Texas in a move to the Pac-10, the Longhorns would not be scheduling A&M in any sport any time soon.
If so, the opening line to the Texas A&M fight song (which is almost entirely about Texas), "Good-bye to Texas University ...", could be taken quite literally.
Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott met with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State officials on Saturday in Oklahoma City before meeting with Texas A&M officials on Sunday, sources said.
A meeting of the Big 12 South athletic directors with Larry Scott is tentatively planned for Monday in Dallas, sources said.
LAST-DITCH EFFORT TO SAVE 10-MEMBER BIG 12
With A&M's talks with the SEC heating up; OU's position possibly, suddenly unclear; and Texas, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State all seemingly firm in their commitment to joining the Pac-10; there appears to be wild, last-second maneuvering to hold the 10 remaining Big 12 schools together.
The effort is being led by commissioner Dan Beebe to show proof of a future television agreement for the 10 remaining schools in the Big 12 on par with the SEC that would preserve individual school's rights to launch their own distribution platforms, including networks.
Beebe would only tell Orangebloods.com on Saturday, "I'm working tirelessly to make a compelling case for our institutions to remain together. I'm trying to present them with proof that shows these 10 institutions are worth more together than if they joined other conferences."
Sources said that proof from Beebe is believed to be assurances from one or more media experts that a 10-member Big 12 can still achieve a TV deal that would pay on par with the SEC's $17 million per school - while also preserving schools' rights to explore their own networks.
Multiple sources have said Texas will finalize plans to join the Pac-10 at a regents meeting planned for Tuesday in Austin. Up to this point, OU, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech have privately vowed to go where Texas goes.
Two Big 12 sources said Texas president Bill Powers, a California-Berkeley graduate, has been the driving force in convincing UT's nine-member regents board the Longhorns' future belongs in the Pac-10.
Those sources say they don't know if Powers would be willing to consider any alternatives that would keep the 10 Big 12 schools together - even if there's proof a possible TV deal on par with the SEC ($17 million) could be reached AND still allow UT and other schools to have an individual network.
Two Big 12 sources say all the athletic directors in the Big 12 South, including Texas A&M's Bill Byrne and Texas' DeLoss Dodds, favor holding the remaining 10 schools together.
But that A&M System Chancellor Mike McKinney and Powers may not be able to be talked back to the table.
"If there's evidence we can be more valuable as a 10-member league than as a 12-member league, and you're going to get to have your own TV network, why would you subject your school to all the travel required in the Pac-10?" said one top official at another Big 12 school.
"We just lost our two worst basketball programs (Nebraska and Colorado). We could play nine conference games in football and choose to have the championship game or not, depending on what Texas wants. The two coaches who always hated the conference title game the most were Mack Brown and Bob Stoops. I think the rest of us would be willing to go with that they wanted."
Messages left by Orangebloods.com with OU, A&M and Texas officials were not immediately returned.
TAPPING THE BRAKES?
Texas Rep. Dan Branch (R-Dallas), who heads the House Higher Education Committee, wants to slow everything down and determine if decisions involving Texas schools in potential conference realignment are being made for the right reasons.
Branch is calling for hearings on Wednesday morning and told Orangebloods.com on Saturday that he'll invite the presidents from Texas, Texas Tech and Texas A&M as well as presidents from Baylor, TCU, SMU, Rice, Houston, UTEP and North Texas.
Branch also plans to invite Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe, Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky and possibly even Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott.
Branch said he also wants to hear testimony from some economists about the long-term financial impact of having major universities in Texas leave the Big 12.
"There's a lot of questions about the look to the west and how that affects multiple sports programs and students and what kind of dollars are involved," said Branch, who attended Oklahoma Christian as an undergrad and SMU law school.
"Why does it make sense to go so quickly? Does it make sense to look west versus east and what are the options?
"We're talking about changing the habits of a lot of students, and apparently there's a lot of money in play. These are important public assets, our universities. So the members have some questions because it's caused considerable interest, questions, e-mail traffic and blogging that has ended up in the members' districts.
"It's not just being driven by Baylor, which is obviously making a strong push among its alumni around the state. But also the alumni of SMU, TCU, the University of Houston. And we've got people at Texas A&M and even at Tech and Texas who have questions.
"Maybe it is a good thing to move this quickly and this fast. And maybe it is a good thing to have a group of Texas schools go to the Pac-10. But if it is, let's lay out the case before the public."
Branch said House Appropriations Committee chairman Jim Pitts (R-Waxahachie) and Texas House Speaker Joe Straus (R-San Antonio) would also sit in on the hearings.
"We're not trying to micromanage," Branch said. "But on the other hand, we're trying to get plenty of transparency because we're getting a lot of pushback at a lot of questions."
Stay tuned.
I can't find anything in the papers here that is anything but saying the SEC is against expansion. It is not only up to the commissioner. He may be doing homework, but all of the SEC presidents, at least publicly, say they are against expansion. Personally I don't see an advantage or disadvantage to adding anyone. Texas certainly won't come because of the way the SEC divides up revenues.
Jeff_Schroeder said:
What was the deal in the article about A&M 's academic reputation being able to be continued in the SEC?
The main problem with expansion is that it creates too difficult a task to compete for a BCS national title. It is virtually impossible to go through the SEC schedule plus the championship game undefeated. Other conferences like the Big Ten where the state university of OH plays two real games and 9 practice games, and wherever Boise and Cincinnati and TCU play have an unfair advantage because they have big winning records, have high rankings and yet play no competition. Plus they have lighter academic standards. Many SEC schools have academic standards higher than the NCAA requirements.
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As fast as the realignment story changes, newspapers might as well be ancient Egyptian carvings.
Texas won’t come because they like to think they are more hippy than redneck and because…
…fair or not, the SEC has a poor academic reputation. Before you go, don’t jump on my about it, I didn’t establish it.
In reality, if you look at USNews&WR rankings, the SEC is better academically at the top and bottom of the conference but trails in the middle of the pack schools. Texas is tied with Florida and Texas A&M would fall in at #4 between Georgia and Auburn.
The fact that there are only two AAU schools in the SEC is likely the cause of much of the reputation.
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What was once unthinkable has, apparently, come to pass. Texas A&M and the University of Texas, barring the unforeseen or political activity, will be heading their separate ways in 2011. The Aggies will be the newest member of the Southeastern Conference.
Aggieyell.com has confirmed through multiple sources that Pac-10 Commissioner Larry Scott met with members of the A&M Board of Regents in College Station Sunday morning. At that meeting, the Scott was informed that the board would be declining the conference's offer to join. Scott was the second conference head to visit College Station this weekend, with the SEC's Mike Slive being the first.
Aggieyell.com has been told by more than once source that the driving forces behind the move to the SEC are Board Chairman Morris Foster and A&M Chancellor Mike McKinney. In part due to a push by former A&M and Alabama head coach--and current Regent--Gene Stallings, there is a 6-3 board majority in favor of making the move to the SEC.
A&M Athletic Director Bill Byrne was not involved in either meeting and has not been consulted on the decision by the board. This decision, sources indicate, will be the board's alone.
The support of Foster and McKinney, both close associates of Gov. Rick Perry, for the SEC has surprised many observers. Perry, who has repeatedly said he wanted the Texas teams to stick together--a move many thought meant he supported the Pac-10 concept. Perry has since said he intends to stay out of the process, which he may indeed be doing.
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Mark Passwaters
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Talk about it in Northgate
What was once unthinkable has, apparently, come to pass. Texas A&M and the University of Texas, barring the unforeseen or political activity, will be heading their separate ways in 2011. The Aggies will be the newest member of the Southeastern Conference.
Aggieyell.com has confirmed through multiple sources that Pac-10 Commissioner Larry Scott met with members of the A&M Board of Regents in College Station Sunday morning. At that meeting, the Scott was informed that the board would be declining the conference's offer to join. Scott was the second conference head to visit College Station this weekend, with the SEC's Mike Slive being the first.
Aggieyell.com has been told by more than once source that the driving forces behind the move to the SEC are Board Chairman Morris Foster and A&M Chancellor Mike McKinney. In part due to a push by former A&M and Alabama head coach--and current Regent--Gene Stallings, there is a 6-3 board majority in favor of making the move to the SEC.
A&M Athletic Director Bill Byrne was not involved in either meeting and has not been consulted on the decision by the board. This decision, sources indicate, will be the board's alone.
The support of Foster and McKinney, both close associates of Gov. Rick Perry, for the SEC has surprised many observers. Perry, who has repeatedly said he wanted the Texas teams to stick together--a move many thought meant he supported the Pac-10 concept. Perry has since said he intends to stay out of the process, which he may indeed be doing.
JSchroeder
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You know what's sad, I see that and think "what's RSC posting that old info for?" and realize it was just three hours ago.
I need this to stop.
I need this to stop.
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Aggies will be the doormat of the SEC if they do that. It will be like playing Texas every weekend. The Aggies have not been that competitive since Jackie Sherrel left. Thus, if they bolt for the SEC it will be a huge mistake on their part.
JSchroeder
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My gosh man, at least get your facts straight, they won four conference championships and were top 25 every year in the decade after he
Everyone who looks at the SEC rationally realizes they'll get stomped on for a while, it's about the long term viability of the program. If it were just about winning right away they should join Conference USA.
I hope it goes down this way. I suspect it will help their recruiting as this way they aren't having to go head to head in every way with Texas.
I just never saw conservative A&M a fit in any way with the liberal Pac 10 schools. This is really about more than football I think. My boys are already pretty much brainwashed into being aggies (not by me - but other relatives). I guess we'll have some fun roadtrips to Baton Rouge some day.
I just never saw conservative A&M a fit in any way with the liberal Pac 10 schools. This is really about more than football I think. My boys are already pretty much brainwashed into being aggies (not by me - but other relatives). I guess we'll have some fun roadtrips to Baton Rouge some day.
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The latest rumor is Arkansas has informally inquired about joining the Big 12 (or 10), due to the possible big 12 network that would bring in $17 million a year (the same as the SEC)
I think a&m will not be a doormat for as long as you guys think in the SEC. Imagine a 5 star texas recruit with mike sherman or mack brown in their living room. One says you can come and play in austin and play in a weaker conference oh and about 3 or 4 of your games will be played at 9 or 10 pm cst after a 4-8 hr plane ride. or You can play in college station in the conference that has produced 3 of the last four national champs. In the south against LSU, Ala. Tenn. etc In the conference that produces the most NFL players year in and year out. This is going to be a great selling point for A&M.
RSC
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I'm sure that is alot newer to you, just thought I'd share. I know this is scary time for all the Big 12 fans and hope it all works out.Jeff_Schroeder said:
Tony
Jeff_Schroeder said:
Uhmmmmmmmm............ok, what ever that means. Not sure what anything USN&WR would have to say has to do with the price of eggs, but whatever. Just who is it that has established a poor academic reputation for SEC schools? Them or They? Probably one of those two.
The article I asked about pertained to an athletic conference and so I'm thinking maybe that kind of ranking would be more appropriate to this "academic reputation" thing as it pertains to the article this guy wrote. The NCAA just last week released the latest APR rankings that placed A&M tied at #86 out of 120 teams. Vandy in at #9, UGA in at #14, UF #17, LSU #28, etc. etc. The only SEC schools below A&M were Arkansas (who came to the SEC from the Big 12) and Ole Miss. It seems to me that allowing any Big 12 team into the SEC would tarnish the "academic reputation" of the SEC, not the other way around. Not that I believe actual facts should ever get in the way of a good story, just sayin'.
JSchroeder
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So you really think Slive just had a desire to go visit College Station, TX in the middle of June while five of his baseball teams were playing in super regionals and during the track national championship?
The Pac-10 splits revenue similarly to the way the SEC splits revenue. If anything, the SEC would have been more favorable to Texas because it allows for team networks which is what Texas wanted all along and what the Pac-10 wouldn't allow. You don’t know many UT fans if you don’t know the disdain they have the SEC. Go visit a couple of their forums and you’ll realize I’m essentially a PR guy for the SEC compared to the vitriol they post about you guys.
Regarding academics, I can see where your confusion comes in if you are using the APR as your standard for academic reputation. You can make an argument that the University of Dayton is superior to Harvard using APR but the writer was referring to much more than graduation rate.
If you are going to dismiss the USN&WR so quickly, there’s really nothing to discuss any way as (fair or not) it’s the go to standard for academic rankings. And yes, only two AAU schools plays a large role in the reputation of the SEC when at least 50% of the Big Ten, Pac-10, and Big XII are AAU schools.
Please note, I didn't establish the reputation, I explained it. I’m really not trying to put the SEC down.
AAOK
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A & M is going to stay in the Big 12 just like the rest, minus Colorado & Nebraska. The new Big 12(10) will have only one division and no playoff. Beebe has securred TV contracts to pay all schools in the 14 to 17 million range. At least that's my prediction.
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