I agree on differnt routes its not an easy one, The last 2 years we have used club calves and she has done a wonderfull job and her steers have sold for pretty good money. We are wanting some maternal genentics in are herd. But on the other hand not really wanting to lose out on her raising a good show calf. I have also ordered some smilin Boband Im tossing that around in my head also. We have some really nice PB simmental cows and Im just wanting some direction. They have all produced big boned, ok hair and nice frames just lacking good muscle.