Question on Hoo doo Charolais.

[MYT Farms]

I have some questions on Hoo Doo Charolais cattle. Are they show quality? Do they have good, "real world" qualities? Are there any bulls from them that you would recommend? Thanks.

Also, Does LT Bluegrass have any qualities for the show ring??

 

[MYT Farms]

BUMP.

 

[Freddy]

The HOO DOO cattle originated in Wyoming  through a closed herd , they are more moderate than most of the Charolais , Kris Black is one breeder who has excelled with the Hoo Doo cattle using them for show cattle .  The smokey an creme cattle fit in to the slick shear shows down south  , it looks like they are more popular than the blacks in that country. We have a Hoo doo bred bull that we use on our Charolais an his  daughters are definitely going to be the right kind  for raising smoke an creme calves. Robinhood (Hoo Doo bull ) reg. no. M665633  the bull will add bone an muscle to cattle that are lacking it. Any one interested in using this bull , we have some extra semen that I'm going to get rid of so any offers will be considered .  The Rambur ranch in Mont. , an Kris Black have interests in this bull. First picture is of Robinhood as a yearling, a son of his that went to State show, then there pictures of two yearling  heifers. Might have some cow pictures later .

 

[MYT Farms]

Thank you for the reply. Bump. Any comments on Bluegrass?

 

[TJ]

All depends upon what you are wanting to do, what cows your breeding & at what level you want to compete.  I don't know a too much about the bull personally, but I think he'd work on cleaner fronted cows.       

 

[MYT Farms]

All depends upon what you are wanting to do, what cows your breeding & at what level you want to compete.  I don't know a too much about the bull personally, but I think he'd work on cleaner fronted cows.       

He just looks like he has some tremendous muscling and capacity, especially for a Char bull. Muscling is one thing I could use, and keeping lots of gut is a must. He would probably also bring up the frame score on my 3-4 cows, too. Another must for show ring cattle, but tolerable in the real world. He looks like he could add some feedlot and showring quality while making keep-able heifers.

 

[Freddy]

One thing I might clarify when I was talking showring I meant the clubby calves not the pure white showring your in a whole different world, there getting better , starting to put some correctness an guts in there cattle , but if you have warched pedigrees very long they would scare you to death. Twenty years ago I used the big name Charolais sires that showed an every time  I tried to pick some of the easier calving one, one year had 4 calves coming an started at 104 birth weight an ended at 140, they got bigger as every extra day went along . I know this has changed but they havent gotton rid of it yet.

 

[MYT Farms]

One thing I might clarify when I was talking showring I meant the clubby calves not the pure white showring your in a whole different world, there getting better , starting to put some correctness an guts in there cattle , but if you have warched pedigrees very long they would scare you to death. Twenty years ago I used the big name Charolais sires that showed an every time  I tried to pick some of the easier calving one, one year had 4 calves coming an started at 104 birth weight an ended at 140, they got bigger as every extra day went along . I know this has changed but they havent gotton rid of it yet.

Yes sir, I was meaning "clubby" as well, not quite show ring. Actually, looking at the Angus sector, similar things happened.

 

[gilbert07]

If you are wanting to use a charolais bull for cross breds my choices would be Sparrows Madrid, WDZ Bud, have one straw on him, JDJ Smokester had a heifer out of him that would have made a great clubby cow but wouldnt breed, KASS KOJACK, saw him at NAILE last year and was thicker than crosses with hair, and DR STEALTH, a hoo doo slasher son that won reserve in denver a couple years ago, gonna use him on my Budsmydad cow...if you need anything else you can pm me

 

[Bawndoh]

Here are a few photos of Bluegrass in stud last spring.  He was incredible.  He was by far everybody's favorite bull there.  He is about a frame 6, and very, very thick.  You can see how that thickness carries right down into his hock.  I personally dont think you can put anymore red meat onto this bull.  He is loaded!  He jogged into this pen, so he is structurally correct, and travelled really well.  He is the first Charolais bull that has ever been suggested to breed to Angus heifers to create smokey calves.  Instead of breeding Angus bulls to Char heifers.  Cattlemen from New Zeland said he is the best beef bull they have seen of any breed, ever.  He is a moderate performer, but his structure and thickness are second to none.  I would ABSOLUTELY reccomend him to a clubby herd.

 

[MYT Farms]

Here are a few photos of Bluegrass in stud last spring.  He was incredible.  He was by far everybody's favorite bull there.  He is about a frame 6, and very, very thick.  You can see how that thickness carries right down into his hock.  I personally dont think you can put anymore red meat onto this bull.  He is loaded!  He jogged into this pen, so he is structurally correct, and travelled really well.  He is the first Charolais bull that has ever been suggested to breed to Angus heifers to create smokey calves.  Instead of breeding Angus bulls to Char heifers.  Cattlemen from New Zeland said he is the best beef bull they have seen of any breed, ever.  He is a moderate performer, but his structure and thickness are second to none.  I would ABSOLUTELY reccomend him to a clubby herd.

WOW.  That is one fine bull. Glad to hear from someone who saw him in person, especially considering the soundness factor. Gilbert, if I have any questions on the Char X, I'll be sure to PM you. I'm positive I'll have plenty.

 

[gilbert07]

yes bluegrass is a great bull right now in the chaolais association...had a couple winners in the junior charolais show this year and other major shows...out of a great LT Assertion bull...anything with the letter LT in front of the bull are gonna be great bulls no matter what...that ranch knows how to produce good ones..another great thing is he is a calving ease bull...looking forward to using him on my next heifer i get..

 

[farwest]

If i was gonna want some char influence for clubbies i would go with troubador or yellow jacket, just easier to market to someone.

 

[MYT Farms]

If i was gonna want some char influence for clubbies i would go with troubador or yellow jacket, just easier to market to someone.

Troubador looked real good and sound to boot. But, will he make replacement females? Any input on him?

 

[Freddy]

Troubadour will proably have his earliest calves next fall , because I think he was just a year old this fall, I will have calves out of him in Sept. .  Kris Black also has a bull named George that is Hoo Doo bred an I have semen on him an he has calves on the ground this fall .  One of the guys on SP have seen some of them an used him this fall, I was going to wait till he got him registered .

 

[farwest]

Freddy could you tell me who that old cowboy is in the pic with the showbull, looks familiar.

 

[RSC]

Freddy could you tell me who that old cowboy is in the pic with the showbull, looks familiar.

Not sure who that is Farwest.  I found him in this picture as well, Center- Black hat.  Who's that stud next to him in the silver hat?  (thumbsup)

Tony

 

[Freddy]

The reply from Bawndoh  makes the Bluegrass bull look  like a very useable choice , glad he replied because it is very hard to decide on a bull by just a picture an this was very convincing .  I tried to get a picture of the George bull (HOO DOO) BUT DID NOT HAVE MUCH LUCK, IN PAST POSTS THERE WAS ONE BUT COULDN'T FIND IT. Now FARWEST don't give me any static  about my typing .  You guys stay out of trouble in Denver , RSC PROABLY HASN'T BEEN TO TOWN FOR A WHILE.

 

[CAB]

I called & left a message on Kris' phone, but never heard back. I have been wanting to see and find more info on the George bull also.

 

[Bawndoh]

The reply from Bawndoh  makes the Bluegrass bull look  like a very useable choice , glad he replied because it is very hard to decide on a bull by just a picture an this was very convincing .  I tried to get a picture of the George bull (HOO DOO) BUT DID NOT HAVE MUCH LUCK, IN PAST POSTS THERE WAS ONE BUT COULDN'T FIND IT. Now FARWEST don't give me any static  about my typing .   You guys stay out of trouble in Denver , RSC PROABLY HASN'T BEEN TO TOWN FOR A WHILE.

Hey...I'm a she!  LOL.