back then we bred him quite a bit - he could cripple them off both ends - he was thick for the day and would size them up but not as thick as today and surely no body - but in those days we had lots of these little 1100 pound ground sows to breed bulls like that to - that is just what the cows were then and you needed a "changer" - birth weights ranged from moderate to ridiculous - on the daughters don't believe everything that you hear - it was hard to find a bull to breed even the sound appearing ones to that would not result in a cripple - they milked OK but not exceptional, no body and hard doing - the current popular bulls don't have a thing on some of the older sires on birth weights and cripples - his calves were pretty gentle compared to others but that was just maybe because they could not run away from you like the Sugar Rays and other bulls of the era - just my opinion, but often we think back on the old bulls as being better than they were - kind of like old athletes, "the older we get, the better we were" - surely we are making progress on breeding cattle and making them better - truth is that you probably should throw away semen older than 10 years old - maybe some people want to play with the old genetics but I don't get it - I threw my old semen on him away along with the Black Power Play, and other 6' tall bulls -