Rate of Gain?

[PaFFA Proud]

Jw how do you determine the rate of gain for an steer?? ???

 

[Earthmover]

Its easy.  Finish weight  minus beginning weight divided by days in between.  Example  1300lbs finish  600lb start  700lb total gain  divided by 210 days equals 3.34lbs per day, that is your rate of gain

 

[PaFFA Proud]

Ok JW I was told my steer is gaining 5lbs a day? I heard of a top of 3lbs a day but never 5..is it possible to gain this much weight in a day?

 

[chambero]

Possible, but highly unlikely unless he has real big frame and was halg starved to begin with

 

[fullblood]

must be a good fullblood?

 

[Bradenh]

its possible like chambero said. but very unlikely. i have an american that gains 5.4 ppd and we cant seem to slow him down for anything. so its feasible but alot of times it isnt nessicerily good if its that high

 

[MCC]

Ok JW I was told my steer is gaining 5lbs a day? I heard of a top of 3lbs a day but never 5..is it possible to gain this much weight in a day?

We always weighed my kids calves every Sat. morning. Some weeks they wouldn't gain a pound, some weeks they would gain 20 pounds or more. I don't know how often you are weighing yours but ADG to me means an average they gain over the entire feeding period. JMO 

 

[PaFFA Proud]

Well he wasent starved when we got him...thats for sure. When I weighed him last sat he weighed 850lbs, I plan on weighing him tomarrow if I make it to our feed mill on time before they close(i weigh him in the trailer on the truck scales at themill) Im not sure what frame of steer he would be, maybe yall could tell me from this pic I took last friday of him(sorry not the best, was with my cell to send to my aunt to see the pretty cow lol )

 

[CAB]

PaFFA, did you ever get his other testicle taken out?

 

[PaFFA Proud]

PaFFA, did you ever get his other testicle taken out?

Yep, last Saturday

 

[CAB]

If this calf is the one that you having issues of either lice or some other parasites, you maybe seeing some compensatory gains after you poured/wormed him. Bulls will gain faster than steers and 5lbs/day is possible. He will slow down here for a bit after being casterated but once he is healed up should be fine. Did you say that your show is in June? If so, you do need to keep him eating as much as he possibly will eat. Good Luck.

 

[PaFFA Proud]

Yep the same cow..lol my only one other than Dairy Beef. His appitite is still strong as ever, licks his dish clean. I am right now feeding him 23lbs a day of Finisher. So jw what frame of steer would he be?

 

[CAB]

Yep the same cow..lol my only one other than Dairy Beef. His appitite is still strong as ever, licks his dish clean. I am right now feeding him 23lbs a day of Finisher. So jw what frame of steer would he be?

Brittany, if you give us a hip height and age, we can figure out his FS.

 

[PaFFA Proud]

Yep the same cow..lol my only one other than Dairy Beef. His appitite is still strong as ever, licks his dish clean. I am right now feeding him 23lbs a day of Finisher. So jw what frame of steer would he be?

Brittany, if you give us a hip height and age, we can figure out his FS.

Ok I will try to get his hip measurments tomarrow and im pretty sure he was born in April, weighed him today and is 885 and that was standing right on the scale

 

[CAB]

Link for how to figure frame scores.

http://www.ag.ndsu.edu/pubs/ansci/beef/as1091w.htm

 

[PaFFA Proud]

Took a while but measured his hip height and got 52 inches, anyone still willing to give a gamble on this?

 

[CAB]

Took a while but measured his hip height and got 52 inches, anyone still willing to give a gamble on this?

Yeah, do you know his age?

 

[PaFFA Proud]

whoops sorry about that he is 12 months

 

[CAB]

whoops sorry about that he is 12 months

Using Table # 2,(for bull calves), from the link that I posted, your calf's frame score, (52 inches tall @ 12 months age), is exactly a 6.5 FS.

 

[vc]

I kept these total on my blackberry, so I do not have the whole year but this is how we did it.

2010 Steers
Date UF 37 ADG HW 43 ADG
4/02/10 1133 xxx 1045 xxx
4/11/10 1172 4.33 1079 3.77
4/19/10 1201 3.63 1107 3.50
4/29/10 1234 3.30 1132 2.50
5/12/10 1269 2.69 1161 2.23
5/26/10 1323 3.86 1190 2.07
6/02/10 1344 3.00 1210 2.85
6/27/10 1410 2.64 1275 2.60
Total ADG 3.35 2.70