I am actually looking for some outcross genetics for my dads Charolais herd. He has used Sonderup genetics for years and has not brought an outside female into the herd for 25+ years. Need to boost milk and structure, we already have what I called thick and stout, cows are about 1300-1600 avg size. I just saw the Charlie bull and he looks very similar to our Oz braunvieh bull but in white!!! This is the first time ever Dad has considered using AI so I am pretty thrilled about that.