Yea-thats probably a pretty big time outfit with that volume of good AI bulls Different end of the curve from Pharo with alot more pounds at the end-but good documented cattle and a live (thick) calf from both outfits. I-Like that Tyson bull-He got any Canadian Red Angus in him? Too bad the original poster here hasnt bothered to thank you or anyone else for their time and troubleO0