Shorthorn bull "Dover"

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By registration that looks like all line bred and closed herd. Nice looking stock. I am sure someone on here will know this ranch.
 

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Ralph Larson sold possession in this bull to Derek Jungels in N Dakota and Chad Ennis ( Shady Maple) in Indiana. He is very structurally sound, and moderate framed.He comes from the Dover Ranch of Dover Sindelar's at Billings Montana. He is line bred and an outcross to many of today's popular bloodlines. It has been a few years since I was at Dover Ranch, but the cow herd then looked like they had taken a few cows and cloned them... 98% solid red, moderate framed and good uddered. All very similar in type. They have been selected for generations for survival in real world conditions.

I have not heard much about his calves yet, but I think it could be very interesting to put a bull like this onto some of today's better females.
 

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Has nothing to do with Dover & maybe not what you are looking for, but I'm pretty impressed with the Lakeside Shorthorn bulls on their website for moderate, beefy type Shorthorns.  Might be worth checking them out, if you already haven't.  I found out that a couple of breeders 2 counties over from me are using a Powerplay son, so I'm hoping going to go check them out sometime soon.  Actually, after some investigation, I think that my uncle may have back grounded some of their steer calves (or customers calves)... they were Shorthorn sired & from that area.  If so, those calves did really well.        
 

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Ralph is one of a few breeders that have "captured' the Dover genetics in the last 5 or 6 years. Jim Hobbs, OH  Rick and Trish Leone, CO and of course A&T Cattle Co of NE. I think it's expensive to bring the females back to the books but well worth it in the end. Rick and Trish flushed 5 mature females heavily and now have sons and probably grandson in production- one of the bulls that sold really well from that herd went to Leveldale Farms "Peakview Moet". I know Les is real happy with the daughters from that bull.  A& T have done exceptional well with the group of 10 females  purchased - Open Range, Captain Obvious and more recently Raw Hide are bulls that sold and/or produced very well. I think 3 of the females have generated some "pricey" flushes too. Many of the sons are in herds now and doing very well. I think Captain is exceptional  (clapping) . Mr Hobbs  flushes his choice of Dover females and from what I have heard it is well worth the trip to see his young group in Ohio.
DL two sons and grandsons from the Dover herd reside in Michigan about 45 minutes apart. I didnt give you alot of information regarding Dover - but call Ralph and find out if semen is still available?? Last I knew it was not on the market due the untimely death of Dover 101VM.
 

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We bought a full brother to Open Range last year and we are just starting to get the first calves out of him now.  The first was a 70lb hfr calf out of a 3/4 blood shorthorn.  They are pretty functional cattle that are built to go out and work for you.
 

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I would guess Dover would improve temperment,calving ease, udders, color,fertility, maternal calving ease,libido, and carcass traits on 95% of the Shorthorn cows in the world. Other than that he's not going to help much.
 

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Endless Meadows said:
We bought a full brother to Open Range last year and we are just starting to get the first calves out of him now.  The first was a 70lb hfr calf out of a 3/4 blood shorthorn.  They are pretty functional cattle that are built to go out and work for you.

That's right full brother to open range in my opinion is heavier muscled but tell me the name of the full brother again??? I liked that bull alot last year? Glad to hear the calves are on a good start.
 

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aj said:
I would guess Dover would improve temperment,calving ease, udders, color,fertility, maternal calving ease,libido, and carcass traits on 95% of the Shorthorn cows in the world. Other than that he's not going to help much.
Little bit o'dry humor and sarcasm, there, Craig? ;) ;) ;)

(pop) (thumbsup) <cowboy> <rock> <beer> (clapping)
 

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sue said:
Endless Meadows said:
We bought a full brother to Open Range last year and we are just starting to get the first calves out of him now.  The first was a 70lb hfr calf out of a 3/4 blood shorthorn.  They are pretty functional cattle that are built to go out and work for you.

That's right full brother to open range in my opinion is heavier muscled but tell me the name of the full brother again??? I liked that bull alot last year? Glad to hear the calves are on a good start.

Sue,  Thanks for your thoughts on our bull his name is A&T Lone Ranger.  I'm pretty excited to get some more calves out of him.
 

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Check out the Dover son selling next week in Othello Washington-- Lot 22  Red White and Black Sale hosted by JR Ranch.

www.jdaonline.com


83 BW  677 WW  975 YW . Im sure Jeff will have ultrasound, SC and HH available very soon
 

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I just ran across this post and thought I would contribute an update. Also, I appreciate the positive comments.

During the extremely cold North Dakota winter of 2009, DRC 101VM (Dover) suffered a severely frozen scrotum. Derek had several semen tests done on him in the Spring and was told by the Vet that he would never breed another cow and should either be shipped or used for a Gomer bull. Derek decided to use him for the latter. According to Derek, he discovered this Spring that "Dover" had impregnated several cows while conducting his heat detection duties. Chad had taken him to Indiana last Fall to see if some R&R might help him recover. I talked to Chad earlier this week. Dover passed his recent semen test with flying colors and is back in business. Semen is available for $25/unit and $15/certificate. It is stored with Genex.

Dover has sired what I feel are some functionally exceptional females for us. Sons are seeing service in several commercial herds and I am confident they will like the results. We report all BW's, and they are done accurately through the use of a calf sling hooked to a scale I suspend from the bale spear. The average actual BW of all Dover sired calves born here has been 87 lbs. for the bulls and 85 lbs. on the heifers. We kept a son named "YY The Earl of Dover 118U" and his first calf crop is on the ground. "Earl" is out of Diamond Baroness 21J from the noted Baroness cow family of Diamond Shorthorns in AB. To say that I am very pleased with these little heifers is an understatement. I will make some much needed updates to our website very soon. Please feel free to contact me with questions or more information. Contact info can be found at "www.yydurhamcattle.com"

Thanks!
 
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