Syndicated Bull Question

[kane1598]

I understand what syndication means, I think, that a person or group owns exclusive genetic rights to a bull.  What I don't understand is how people outside that syndicate get semen on bulls like CF Solution, HAA Stockman and SLC Sooner.  Perhaps I am wrong, but an HD Bloodstone female was the Division 1 champion in the bred and owned shorty heifer show at this years Jr. Nationals. Maybe I am wrong, but their seems to be a way to get semen on these very exclusive bulls. I am specifically interested in SLC Sooner semen. Does anyone have any insight?  Thanks.

 

[farmboy]

the exclusive owners sell semen

 

[RSC]

I understand what syndication means, I think, that a person or group owns exclusive genetic rights to a bull.  What I don't understand is how people outside that syndicate get semen on bulls like CF Solution, HAA Stockman and SLC Sooner.  Perhaps I am wrong, but an HD Bloodstone female was the Division 1 champion in the bred and owned shorty heifer show at this years Jr. Nationals. Maybe I am wrong, but their seems to be a way to get semen on these very exclusive bulls. I am specifically interested in SLC Sooner semen. Does anyone have any insight?  Thanks.

It all depends on how the individual sydication contract is drawn up.  Most aren't allowed to directly sell the semen but there are ways around it.  On a very popular sindicated bull, a friend of mine once acquired a cane of semen.  The owner of the share could not sell but could use it for genetic improvement of his herd.  As long as he was a partner he could share a flush.  My close friend offered him a couple pregnancies for the semen.  Most of the sindicated semen is protected from selling by putting an outlandish cert fee on the registration of that bull.  If the sydicated owner is a part owner in the flush he can register all the calves from that flush, I believe.

RSC

 

[Doc]

  RSC you're pretty much right. Usually owners may donate semen to a Jr benefit auction if everyone agrees or they may give 2 straws with an open female that they may sell to be used on that female only( that is how you can end up with a bred & owned animal from someone other than a synd. member). Also it seems like as the bull gets the more lax the owners get on who ends up with semen.

 

[knabe]

can sooner's name be changed to "later" if non-syndicated users get access?

 

[itk]

Wasn't Bloodstone semen for sale on the open market when he first came out or am I remembering things wrong.

 

[GONEWEST]

When we were big in the registered Simmentals, they used to syndicate bulls very often. It's not so popular now in that breed. But there wasn't a bull that I couldn't get semen on somehow. Got some one time from another country when people here had "exclusive US rights. If you're "hooked up" with the right people in whatever breed you're looking for, you can get about anything. That being said, I haven't figured out a way to get any Sooner, and I haven't figured a way to get some of these Chi-Angus bulls that are at the top of that breed. Not hooked up with the right people. But some are and that's how you see so many Sooners and Bloodstones. Bloodstones seem to be everywhere.