OINK OINK! I like em both-SUCKA FO A SOW- I think the 2nd one would show -where shes thick-but long fronted-the first is a moose-who youd need to watch getting too fat-shes a natural sow. By pedigree alone-they are prime to breed to a CE Angus, or Shorthorn-yes they do exist-and its a good cross. O0