texas state fair steer

[glw]

would like some feed back on this steer this one belongs to my younger son. sire is Carlos o'kelley

 

[qbcattle]

really nice calf...good luck with him!

 

[Silver]

He's a little too hard made for my taste, and i would like to flatten him out in his back end.

 

[Bulldaddy]

Nice calf.  Look like he needs some finish.  May want to add a little flaked corn to  his ration and keep him cool.  Hopefully, he we be ready in time. 
Good luck.

 

[dimebag]

Very nice calf ! He should do well for you @ The State Fair !

 

[rackranch]

Get him fat.. only 2 months left... whats he weighing??

 

[OLD WORLD SHORTIE]

he looks good, get some more fat on him. go to sullivans in hillsboro and get him the best cover supplement you can find. corn will work and so will that equine fat liquid also little cheaper just tends to burn the rumen in this Texas heat.

 

[glw]

Get him fat.. only 2 months left... whats he weighing??

the steer is weighing 1100 lbs. and we feed show chow  finishing touch and champion drive with liquid fat

 

[vc]

Try feeding him some stabilized rice bran, helps add cover but wont burn them up.
I like him allot more than the other steer you posted  (at least at this angle)
He has power, is deep enough, and with some cover should look good.

 

[DCC show cattle]

I personally am way to critical when in comes to evaluating cattle we showed. Looking at your calf from this angle i would like to see him cleaner fronted/chest floor which may be due to age (uncontrollable) but i really like his muscle pattern yet would like to see a better substance of bone but on the positive side it looks like he has some sheath to match a "wastier" front end coupled with a clean patterned calf from the heart girth back which means i would oil the ears and try him as an abc  (lol)  (thumbsup) yes im serious about this it might just be the angle and picture but thats my opinion and also one word of advise for feedin in these heats is to stay away from corn and barley it will work if you dont screw up a calf. Final Cover and Dark N' Rich are two really good products. Goodluck! for the state fair he looks competitive if fat enough, sorry if that sounded harsh in anyway im sometimes long winded and too straight forward when talkin cattle  :-\

 

[rackranch]

So you advice would be to try and cheat at their State Fair ???

I personally am way to critical when in comes to evaluating cattle we showed. Looking at your calf from this angle i would like to see him cleaner fronted/chest floor which may be due to age (uncontrollable) but i really like his muscle pattern yet would like to see a better substance of bone but on the positive side it looks like he has some sheath to match a "wastier" front end coupled with a clean patterned calf from the heart girth back which means i would oil the ears and try him as an abc  (lol)  (thumbsup) yes im serious about this it might just be the angle and picture but thats my opinion and also one word of advise for feedin in these heats is to stay away from corn and barley it will work if you dont screw up a calf. Final Cover and Dark N' Rich are two really good products. Goodluck! for the state fair he looks competitive if fat enough, sorry if that sounded harsh in anyway im sometimes long winded and too straight forward when talkin cattle  :-\

 

[CAB]

So you advice would be to try and cheat at their State Fair ???

I personally am way to critical when in comes to evaluating cattle we showed. Looking at your calf from this angle i would like to see him cleaner fronted/chest floor which may be due to age (uncontrollable) but i really like his muscle pattern yet would like to see a better substance of bone but on the positive side it looks like he has some sheath to match a "wastier" front end coupled with a clean patterned calf from the heart girth back which means i would oil the ears and try him as an abc  (lol)  (thumbsup) yes im serious about this it might just be the angle and picture but thats my opinion and also one word of advise for feedin in these heats is to stay away from corn and barley it will work if you dont screw up a calf. Final Cover and Dark N' Rich are two really good products. Goodluck! for the state fair he looks competitive if fat enough, sorry if that sounded harsh in anyway im sometimes long winded and too straight forward when talkin cattle  :-\

Tx is different than up here in the midwest.

 

[rackranch]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you guys were able to alter the physical appereance of your steer.. Yes, TX is different in that regaurd..

So you advice would be to try and cheat at their State Fair ???

I personally am way to critical when in comes to evaluating cattle we showed. Looking at your calf from this angle i would like to see him cleaner fronted/chest floor which may be due to age (uncontrollable) but i really like his muscle pattern yet would like to see a better substance of bone but on the positive side it looks like he has some sheath to match a "wastier" front end coupled with a clean patterned calf from the heart girth back which means i would oil the ears and try him as an abc  (lol)  (thumbsup) yes im serious about this it might just be the angle and picture but thats my opinion and also one word of advise for feedin in these heats is to stay away from corn and barley it will work if you dont screw up a calf. Final Cover and Dark N' Rich are two really good products. Goodluck! for the state fair he looks competitive if fat enough, sorry if that sounded harsh in anyway im sometimes long winded and too straight forward when talkin cattle  :-\

Tx is different than up here in the midwest.

 

[JCFAMILY]

I personally am way to critical when in comes to evaluating cattle we showed. Looking at your calf from this angle i would like to see him cleaner fronted/chest floor which may be due to age (uncontrollable) but i really like his muscle pattern yet would like to see a better substance of bone but on the positive side it looks like he has some sheath to match a "wastier" front end coupled with a clean patterned calf from the heart girth back which means i would oil the ears and try him as an abc  (lol)  (thumbsup) yes im serious about this it might just be the angle and picture but thats my opinion and also one word of advise for feedin in these heats is to stay away from corn and barley it will work if you dont screw up a calf. Final Cover and Dark N' Rich are two really good products. Goodluck! for the state fair he looks competitive if fat enough, sorry if that sounded harsh in anyway im sometimes long winded and too straight forward when talkin cattle  :-\

Why would barley and corn screw up a calf. I have a yellowjacket steer that needs to be a little fat er and was going to use steamed barley. Will this not work?

 

[CAB]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you guys were able to alter the physical appereance of your steer.. Yes, TX is different in that regaurd..

So you advice would be to try and cheat at their State Fair ???

I personally am way to critical when in comes to evaluating cattle we showed. Looking at your calf from this angle i would like to see him cleaner fronted/chest floor which may be due to age (uncontrollable) but i really like his muscle pattern yet would like to see a better substance of bone but on the positive side it looks like he has some sheath to match a "wastier" front end coupled with a clean patterned calf from the heart girth back which means i would oil the ears and try him as an abc  (lol)  (thumbsup) yes im serious about this it might just be the angle and picture but thats my opinion and also one word of advise for feedin in these heats is to stay away from corn and barley it will work if you dont screw up a calf. Final Cover and Dark N' Rich are two really good products. Goodluck! for the state fair he looks competitive if fat enough, sorry if that sounded harsh in anyway im sometimes long winded and too straight forward when talkin cattle  :-\

Tx is different than up here in the midwest.

It's all about classification. If you show around enough, you get to know what flies and what doesn't.

 

[chambero]

[Why would barley and corn screw up a calf. I have a yellowjacket steer that needs to be a little fat er and was going to use steamed barley. Will this not work?

The higher energy you feed the higher a calf's internal body temperature will get.  That's the primary reason when one gets sick you need to pull them off feed and give them only hay.

But this time of year it can be a real problem.  For our winter majors, I (and probably most everyone else feeding steers in Texas) add quite a bit of additional corn or other feedstuffs like barley to try to get them finished.  However, this time of year when its so hot that approach can cause one to go off feed in a hurry. 

Personally, I like to rely on the newer fat additives that are out there that can help with finish without the potential side effects of extra corn this time of year.  In my opinion, the finishers most of of us feed are about as hot as you can get away with this time of year.

I'm not a barley expert because I had severe bloating problems with it on some calves one year (lost one) and don't bother with it anymore, but I understand its probably not as hot as corn.

 

[chambero]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you guys were able to alter the physical appereance of your steer.. Yes, TX is different in that regaurd..

People use every trick in the book to get calves through sifts in Texas.  And yes, more than a few use a few drops of mineral oil in a calf's ear to help them get through an American breed sift line.

I haven't messed with showing at the state fair in a long time and am not familiar with how that sift usually goes, but in my opinion this calf would never get in an ABC class even if you tied anvils to his ears.  But, I've been wrong plenty of times before.  At the state fair, if you get sifted to you go home or do you just get kicked into the regular AOB?  I don't remember.  That usually affects the decision of how much you can gamble on trying to run a calf in a breed.

I would imagine this calf pictured would have a shot at a sale slot in the exotic breeds.

 

[rackranch]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you guys were able to alter the physical appereance of your steer.. Yes, TX is different in that regaurd..

People use every trick in the book to get calves through sifts in Texas. 

I know that Cham, but that doesn't mean its legal.  There are gonna be cheats in every state.  My point was it semmed kinda of odd for someone to advise someone to do it.  I agree the calf would never class ABC anyway. BTW I tried the KO this weekend and 2 bottles the day before and 2 more that morining did ok but for the heifer show the next day I used 3 and 3 and it worked better and she still looks good today....

 

[DCC show cattle]

Alright guys i did NOT in anyway mean to cheat its the way of classifying down here in texas. In saying that I also always went for purple and at the state fair if you class out you go to the exotic show where he would show anyways. So if he classed abc and won the division he is looking at 5000-10000, if he was to go into the exotic (which is much much much tough) a sale hole at the state fair is about 2000. The calf can compete thats why I figured if you get him in its just a check in the bank  (thumbsup) to class him american put oil or water in the ears (does no harm to the calf) and walk him in with his head down about hip level and relaxed. The saying for classifying down here for all the northern guys (wish we classed like yall but we dont) is its not cheating its competing.

Sorry for any confusion! The calf can compete up there for sure.

 

[Bradenh]

i agree with dcc.. class him american, and if you class out then oh well he will show as what he really is,, but if he does classify american then your small gamble is making you some money. and it isnt cheating its just a hole in the system here in texas, if it was that bad of an offence, then they will eventually change the way we classify.