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A RICH Arab sent his Lamborghini on a 6,500-mile round trip to Britain for a service.
The £190,000 supercar was put on a scheduled flight from Qatar to Heathrow – then flown BACK after the oil check.

Money was no object as the flight would have cost the owner – thought to be a Sheikh – around £20,000.

The move sparked fury from green campaigners.

An airport worker said: “This car doesn’t have a carbon footprint – more of a crater.”

The overall cost of sending the Lamborghini to London for the oil change would have cost more than £23,000.

His black-and-gold supercar costs £3,552 to service at an approved dealer – on top of the £20,000 to freight from Qatar to Britain.

The Murciélago LP640 – driven by Batman in movie The Dark Knight – arrived from the Middle Eastern country on Friday.

It cleared customs and was trucked to specialist mechanics in London for the service.

On Monday it was flown back 3,250 miles to the oil-rich state where it was collected by the owner.

A cargo handler at Heathrow blasted the car’s environmental damage.

He said: “It would have been far more efficient to fly mechanics out there.”

Horrifies
And Jenny Evans, of pressure group Plane Stupid, said: “This horrifies me. It is another example of how rich people exploit and pollute the planet because of their money.”

She said the role of the super-wealthy in climate change was not properly recognised – while poor people were rapped for going on holiday.

Friends of the Earth’s transport campaigner Richard Dyer said: “Flying a car thousands of miles for a service is ludicrous when planes are one of the most polluting ways to transport goods. We urge the individual to get their car serviced closer to home.”


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But David Price, of Lamborghini Club UK, said: “If an owner wants to service his car in that way, it is his choice.

“I’m not surprised. Thankfully the age of excess in some areas continues.”

Lamborghini UK spokeswoman Juliet Jarvis said there could be “kudos” for a Middle Eastern owner in servicing a car in London.

She said the exclusive Italian brand had a network of authorised dealers around the world – and most cars were looked after in the country where they were bought.

But she added: “This sort of thing is not unheard of.”

Qatar Airways confirmed it carried the Lamborghini.

The cars are popular with celebs including Rod Stewart and David Beckham.

 

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Doc said:
it is his choice.

this is the crux of the issue, the constant agitation to remove choice based on one's perspective.

addicting a society to a lack of maintenance creates blowback.  maintenance in these society's (be they from anywhere) is counterintuitive and related to birth rates and demographics.  sometimes maintenance simply shows up as acquisition, i.e. war and eventual fragmentation and reallocation of resources.  i find it amazing we seem motivated to do this to ourselves to our detriment, empowering an eventual larger blowback.  i guess this is similar to coyote and rabbit populations, it's just that in humans, the cycle seems a little more subsidized.
 

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Maybe some cattlemen have to much money also. Paying $40k or even $100k for a heifer. Its all about supply and demand. If there is no demand then the price falls. Are we sure that this "arab" is an oil baron. Heck T Boone Pickens gives millions of dollars to build athletic facilities at okie lite and no one complains. Bill Gates is one of the richest men in the world but we dont cry about that. In order for oil prices to come down the value of the dollar will have to climb back up, we will have to build refineries, and we will have to drill for oil in our country. (will probably have to get rid of California also (joke)).
 

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(will probably have to get rid of California also (joke)).
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Careful what you wish for. One more earthquake and your dream may come true.
 

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California will ruin itself before an earthquake and, at that point, san francisco and LA values will be out of popularity.  in mexico, the drug cartel is taking over, in CA, it's the politician cartel.  both are ruthless, scared of competition, and enact rules and policies to sytmie it.
 

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Maybe some cattlemen have to much money also. Paying $40k or even $100k for a heifer. Its all about supply and demand. If there is no demand then the price falls. Are we sure that this "arab" is an oil baron. Heck T Boone Pickens gives millions of dollars to build athletic facilities at okie lite and no one complains. Bill Gates is one of the richest men in the world but we dont cry about that. In order for oil prices to come down the value of the dollar will have to climb back up, we will have to build refineries, and we will have to drill for oil in our country. (will probably have to get rid of California also (joke)).

No, I don't know for sure that he is an oil guy, but I would be willing to bet that 99 to 1 that he is. I don't have a problem with someone having too much money , I have a problem with certain ways someone gets too much money. Yes Bill Gates has a lot of money that he earned , but he also does a lot of good with that money thru out the world with his charitable work & contributions. Yea , I agree with you that it boils down to supply & demand, but that's the ironic part. We pay whatever price OPEC wants to charge us because they have the market cornered & they don't care what we think about them. On the other hand when we ought to be charging them $140 a bushel for corn , rice , wheat & etc. that we basically give them because we are afraid to charge them too much, because we are concerned what the rest of the world will think of us. The bad thing is that no matter what we do, it won't change what the majority of the world thinks of the U.S., because they already think we are "Satan." Just like when we go to war, we are probably the only country that goes to war with a conscience & a set of morals. I'm not saying that is wrong , just that it is tough to win a war against a country that has none, & they don't see anything wrong with using kids as suicide bombers or setting off an IED that kills a couple of soldiers & a dozen innocent shoppers. JMO.
 

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Let's become oil independent, find alternative power while were drilling for oil and build more refineries, we haven't built a new one in 35 years. France is powered by 70% Nuclear Power.Why can't we use technology instead of burning coal? If we were oil independent I wonder if that guy could still afford the same oil change?
 

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one major difference between french and our nuclear power is that they use what we call spent fuel rods as they have newer technology supposedly that can use the lower heat rods more efficiently, whereas we need to bury them. 


if we were to take all the nuclear waste produced to date in the United States and stack it side-by-side, end-to-end, it would cover an area about the size of a football field to a depth of about ten feet.

http://www.ocrwm.doe.gov/ym_repository/about_project/waste_explained/howmuch.shtml

seems like we should just melt it together and put it in san francisco in the presidio.  i wonder how far one would have to be to not be affected by waves.  i can't seem to get far enough from the waves of san francisco politics, can't see that there would be much difference in damage.

 

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Knabe, your telling me we can't develop that technology. When was the last Nuclear Power Plant built? Have we not developed this new technology since then? Frustrating.
 

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Knabe, your telling me we can't develop that technology. When was the last Nuclear Power Plant built? Have we not developed this new technology since then? Frustrating.

i am saying go nuculer.

if we let all the air out the democrat's head, ok obama's and put it in our tires, we will be energy independent.

this guy is a fool and so is the american public if they elect him and reelect those in the house who blocked and/or voted against offshore drilling by a 213 to 212 vote the other day, which allow the coward harry reid to pull his bill allowing some drilling.
 

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Knabe, your telling me we can't develop that technology. When was the last Nuclear Power Plant built? Have we not developed this new technology since then? Frustrating.

nuke facalities are in the same shape as our levy's, bridges, food and water supplies and sewer systems........antiquated,  dangerously managed, and worse yet...totally unaddressed by our leaders....no foriegn forces has to launch any missile to put us in anymore harm than we've got ourselves into already.....the homer simpson cartoon character may be closer to reality than we think...jbarl
 

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Actually, the U.S. is about to build a bunch of brand new nuclear power plants - if I remember correctly 20-30 nationwide.  There was a behind the scenes "prayer meeting" a couple of years ago where the prominent environmental orgs were told to take their pick - more coal plants or nukes.  They'd much rather have the nukes.

They are probably 10 years + or so out for actual completion due to a shortage of reactor manufacturing capacity (most of which is in France). 

NRC changed their permitting process to take a lot of the financial risk out.  You used to have to build the plants before you could actually get the permit - which was not a guarantee.  Process has been changed to make these plants happen.

Another case of how the politicians really do work together sometimes but don't want you to know it.
 

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JbarL said:
BIGTEX said:
Knabe, your telling me we can't develop that technology. When was the last Nuclear Power Plant built? Have we not developed this new technology since then? Frustrating.

nuke facalities are in the same shape as our levy's, bridges, food and water supplies and sewer systems........antiquated,  dangerously managed, and worse yet...totally unaddressed by our leaders....no foriegn forces has to launch any missile to put us in anymore harm than we've got ourselves into already.....the homer simpson cartoon character may be closer to reality than we think...jbarl


There is a nuclear plant in Glen Rose, Texas and it is in great shape, great power never a problem. My father-in law used to work for TXU and said that plant was in great shape.
 

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knabe said:
upgrade now before they brake, everything wears out.
the nuke business  is fossile or nuke here in crystal river... and in constant state of rotating rebuild/ ugrade.. ..back and forth...one on one off....sounds good and looked good on paper and at one time..( maybe 20 yrs ago with 40% more operating and maintance personel ) ...but when you see construcition cranes falling down all over the contry....road overpasses  collapsing from there own weight.........we seem to have lost our industrious advantage we once enjoyed several  decades ago...our grandmothers had enough amercian industrilal capability "sittin  around ", to fire up and learn how to produce tanks/ jeeps/raw materials/ ....refineries..to produce our own fuel to fight a war...literally run the whlole industrious american war machine...with women.....it would be nice to  see any incomming govenor .....after he takes his hand off the bilble at his innaguration ....handed  a list of infastructure issues ( dams, dikes, bridges, levys, roads )  that is to be addressed and accounted for during his term....make it priority #1 for all of em'.......seems you'd  manage a state the same way as a farm....fence needs to be kept secure and safe and constant need of examination and up keep......water needs addressed...always either gettin'  it to  you ...or getting it a way from you....makeing sure the roof and sides stays over top ....and not on top of the residents..... safe paths to travel back and forth  without diease or hardware hazards....( at least the farm residents have a health care plan ).....just a little thinkin'....and physical labor to get it done....we simply cant make it happen anymore....and it aint from any lack of thinkers...........thanks to all the grandmas...and grandpa's  and there generations  military service and " hard work" that will someday be recogonized again as what it takes to "build" a nation........nuke plants/ refineries/ levies/ roads and bridges...its all gotta be done by hand.........seems our industrious generations theme  will go down in history as    "we're not very good...but we're slow"........jbarl
 
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