We have seen numerous Bouncer calves over the last 3 years most were out of angus or angus/maine dams all of them were very deep soggy with alot of hair we done very well with a bouncer heifer at a few local shows and when she had her calf milked very well for a 1st time heifer. I will warn you that you have to watch what you breed him to we had a steer out of a Big angus cow about a frame 7 and that was the biggest longest steer we ever showed when you tied his head even to the head chute on the show chute and we have a sullivans 7 foot chute his back legs were outside the end of the chute on the ground and hes was 60" at the hip and he weighed 1450 lbs to finish him but he gained just a tad over 4 lbs aday. also all the bouncer calves we have seen have been very easy to work with . Sorry to ramble on so long but hopes this helps you.