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OKshorthorn

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I'm struggling with this one more than I have in the past. For some reason I just really thought he would pull through.

We had a Fringe calf born Friday night / Saturday morning. He was big, really big and it was a difficult pull. I think it has something to do with the heat, we have had 3 calves so far, 2 were 8 and 10 days early, both in the low 80 BW range. This guy was 2 days past due, his mom is always a couple days late, and was 118 pounds. Our neighbor pulled a giant and lost the calf from a heifer bred to Northern Improvement the day before. Anyway, after the pull mom was worn out completely and couldn't get up, but he sucked down 2 quarts of colostrum within the hour. The next morning at 7 he was up and seemed to be doing well but I didn't see him nurse but thought he may have. At 8:30, 8 hours after he was born, he was limp and couldn't even lift his head and had his tongue sticking out. We gave him 6 cc of Baytril and tubed another 2 quarts of colostrum in him. We figured his head and tongue were swollen from the hard pull and would go down in a couple days. It is still so hot, 109 that day, we had him under a fan and mister and was able to get a quart of milk down him every few hours Saturday. Sunday he seemed to be doing better, was able to get up and walk around a bit and actually nursed from the bottle but still had his tongue sticking out most of the time and seemed to be struggling to breathe some, we figured the heat sure didn't help any. Sunday morning about 3 am he had a pretty big fever of 105.5. We decided to give him 1 cc of Draxxin to try and bring the fever down, which it did. Monday was even better, early that morning about 2, he drank a quart of milk and his tongue wasn't hanging out, he was breathing normal and I thought he might come out of it, the same most of the morning yesterday, was able to drink a quart every 3 hours and wasn't laboring to breathe. Yesterday afternoon and evening, the tongue came back out, as well as the difficult breathing but was still able to drink a quart of milk, it was 105. Last night we milked the cow again and he wasn't doing very good, checked his temp again and it spiked to 107. We gave him some banamine to help him a little as we weren'y really able to give another shot of draxxin. When we checked him in the middle of the night he had died.

I know death is a part of this and we have all had to deal with it more than we would like. But dangit, we aren't a real big herd and all of those cows are our pets, and it sure doesn't get easier every time you lose one.  I feel horrible for the cow, she is just becide herself. She is always extremely protective of her calves, and with this one, it was almost like she knew he wasn't ok, and she would let us be all around him, doctor him, pick him up, do whatever we needed to do with him and she would stand by and watch.

Sorry for the long story, I guess it just helps me to get it out.
 

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Sorry to hear about your calf.  Sounds like you tried very hard to save it.

It can be pretty sad to lose one, but sometime soon I hope you will see a group of calves running through the pasture with their tails in the air enjoying the cool fall day.  That will make it all worth while again!

Mark
 

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Was the calf by PHILDON JBS FRINGE ET? I really don't know anything of that bloodline. The heat must make it extremely difficult if you get a calf that is sick or weak. I'm not sure what else you could have done! :(
 

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Okotoks said:
Was the calf by PHILDON JBS FRINGE ET? I really don't know anything of that bloodline. The heat must make it extremely difficult if you get a calf that is sick or weak. I'm not sure what else you could have done! :(

Yeah, thats him. I really like the bull, and have had calves out of him before without a problem. The cow usually has bigger calves and is a couple days late but I never dreamed of having something that large. The little bull calf may have been the biggest bone newborn I have ever seen. Extremely stout. 
 

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We lost a bull calf from a heifer two days ago under similar circumstances.  This is just killing heat and its hard for one that was overstressed to pull out of it
 

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The worst days I can remember on our farm include losing calves.  It is hard even when you know and understand that death is all part of it.  Our cattle are pets and I think that makes it even more difficult.  It always seems to smooth it over a little when you can find that momma another baby, sure it is a headache for a few days, but it seems to do the heart good to see her taking care of a little one.  It sounds like you did what you could.  Better luck in the future!
 

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Sorry to hear you lost a calf. When we lose a calf it feels like someone socked you in the gut. It's no fun, hope calving goes easier from here on in.
 

OKshorthorn

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chambero said:
We lost a bull calf from a heifer two days ago under similar circumstances.  This is just killing heat and its hard for one that was overstressed to pull out of it

I know it, the worst part is that there is no relief. it was 98 at 10:00 pm Sunday night with no wind!

We have a couple more calves due in 7-8 days from now. Do you think it would be a good idea to induce tonight, have them calve Thursday morning? I know there are risks involved, but it would be nice having problem come up during the day when a vet can be there within the hour to do a c-section as opposed to the holiday weekend coming up.
 

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No on inducing.  The heat is harder on early calves.  Inducing is harder on cows and they have enough trouble in this as is.
 

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Life on the farm really bites sometimes...the "death" part in particular.

Nothing upsets me more than losing calves...

But I still wouldn't trade the farm life for anything!

Better days will be ahead.  Sorry for the loss. 
 

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Its tough loosing the little ones for sure.  We are trying to save a Monopoly heifer that had her head turned in the cow and was a hard pull.  You pmed me the other day about hay and I didn't know of any but I can hook you up with a neighbor that will sell around 20 bales if it would help.
 

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Sorry for your lose.  It has been a tough summer with over 70 days above 100 here in Texas as well.  I have lost 3 really good black, hairy probably TH carrier calves to the heat.  I have another couple of  heat stessed calves under a fan and mister now.  The Draxxin and banamine with take care of any infection but the fan and mister has proven to be a live saver.  My shorter haired angus and simmental calves as well as the smokey char crosses don't seem to be affected by the heat at all.
 

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I have been in cattle not for 7 years.  Still havent had a calf that was born in Feb. that lived.  Some people say that I am cursed, but I got 3 due in Feb this year.  I guess I am just a sucker for punsihment.  Hope that trend doesnt continue.  But it is like the old saying says "if your gona have livestock your gona have dead stock."
 

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For most of my adult life, I thought those who claimed to have 100% live calves were not telling the truth. Then in 2010, I actually had 162 calves from 160 cows that calved for over a 100% calf crop . I had come close a few times but never thought it was possible. There were many other years when it was not even close to this.
The loss of a newborn is never easy no matter how long you have been at this game. This was brought home to me even more last spring when my dad who is now 86, sat down on a bale and cried when a newborn died. He has been doing this for all his life and it is still not easy for him.  Sorry for your losses. All you can do it put it behind you and go back at it again.
 

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Sure sorry to hear about that. At least you know you tried everything you could. 

P.S.- I'll get that info to you in the next couple of days that you asked me for.
 

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Sorry to hear that. I am currently only running 15 mommas and have lost 2 calves this year so i feel your pain.  :mad: :mad:
 

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I won't comment on the 117# baby calf but that heat must be unbearable. Dodge City and Wichita Ks hit 107 degrees yesterday. I'm sure this year is a year that will stick in peoples minds. Its a spirit breaking bitch. U guys need some relief. Maybe a hurricane will come up the gulf and everybody will get a 4 inch rain.jmo
 

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Thanks everyone for your support. We really appreciate it.

aj, I know your feelings on the large BW and I agree with you. Although our operations may not have the same market, we do have the same goal...live calves. We have used Fringe in the past with success and never over 90 lbs. I'm not sure what caused this guy to be so large.

Thanks again everyone. I wish you all the best of luck with fall calving the rest of the way!!!
 
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