Guess I will answer Mark first , been in raising Charolais fifty years an was always trying to raise them better , when young an ambitious birth weight didn't bother me as much an back then there was not very many calving ease Charolais bulls an a lot had Brahmaa influence ,something we didn't use in our herd ...But through watching these cattle through those years I developed a very high dislike for calves thatweigh over a 100 lbs because of the fact that those to heavy muscled bigger calves came what I dislike the most in my cattle is dead calves an a lot more problems ....also back here you find very few people that will buy a bull that weighed 100 or slightly more ....People use to try them but made up their own mind what they were going to put up with...
Ithink we proably have went over board with it ,some people won't look at one that is in the 90's ..an Mark you are very correct , that is where the extra meat comes from but if to much of it you can lose to....
Show heifer we keep an interest in both the white bulls ,but they are for sale now .The second bull was just RESERVE Grand at Ne, State fair ...I measured him an he is slighty under 6 frame. I will post a picture of his sire ,an his mother also produced the Smoke bull an is one of our top donor cows .
She might even have s better full brother this year ....His sire' s first calf brought 5000 last year right off the cow an showed well in Texas in most of the junior shows an won division in AUSTIN ....
The top bull I kept strictly for the club calf end of it,he is a twin to heifer that is beautiful but is also a fremartin, Have a promeinent steer guy interested in him,see what happens ...