what to breed a couple heifers to?

[WFCC]

We recently purchased an ali x angus that is deep and super thick.  Wondered what people have been using on ali females.  Also purchased a cassius clay x charolais cross, wondered what would work on her.  She is a little bigger framed but has plenty bone, hip, rib to make cow. any suggestions would be appreciated!

 

[farmboy]

shiver or total solution

 

[buckwild]

breed the ali to Moneymaker. He's a purebred, and an actual calving ease maine
breed the charolais to an angus bull, final answer, bismarck.
You should breed for calving ease

 

[WFCC]

we are using bismarck on a couple purebreds to calve next spring. thanks for the opinions.  might flush the ali heifer, any suggestions other than heat wave? possibly meyer or dr. who?

 

[OH Breeder]

Key word HEIFERS

Proven calving ease bulls that you can count on delivering a small calf. Northern Improvement, OCC Legend, SS Traveler T510 are great for consistent cavling ease. I would not try Heat Wave anything or bulls that are not proven.
We had 110# Dr. Who but that also is where you have to consider the female as she is half of the equation. Check the records see if you can track down birth weights in the females history. Go from there.

 

[WFCC]

i was talking about flushing her and putting the eggs in mature cows then breeding her back to a calving ease bull.

 

[OH Breeder]

I am not sure I would spend money on flushing a heifer. That is my opinion only. I do not believe because a heifer has had a phenomenal show career she will be a great female or produce great females. If she hasn't had a calf how do you evaluate her as a good female? I have seen some pretty high dollar show heifers that have not produced one thing. It is your dollar, but I would breed her first and flush after that. I am sure that there are other folks on here that could weigh in on flushing heifers.

 

[Jill]

Flushing a heifer is not recommended by our embryologist and it will nullify your breeding guarantee if you have any problems.
I would agree with have a calf 1st, our 2 most expensive show heifers 1. Went to the sale barn, she never had a calf that was worth a hoot 2. Went in the freezer, couldn't get her bred, it seems the more expensive the heifer the worse the cow, our top donor cost us 1200 dollars and didn't have much of a show career, but she was one heck of a productive cow.

 

[jallen]

I agree with jill make sure you get some good ones on the ground. Then if she has a great set through her carer then in her later flush her.

 

[WFCC]

i agree with seeing what a female can produce before i decide to flush her, but i flushed a first time heifer because we couldnt get her to come into heat and she dumped out 24 eggs, 18 grade ones! i was totally shocked, they say its a hit or miss with the virgin heifer flushing.

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

In my mind a donor cow is a proven producer of exception individuals - not neccessarily a exceptional individual phenotypically or geneitically. RW