What to breed my really chubby Red Angus too??

[sue]

I thinking of something different but not black. Has to be sound, low birth weight and proven. She is 5 frame or less, suprisingly good haired and  huge rib.  I  dont want THC or PHAC but club calf mating for sure.
My nephew is old enough show so we definately want a good disposition. 

 

[CAB]

1st calf heifer or a cow?

 

[AAOK]

Johnny Walker Red
http://www.cattle.com/semen/bulls/Johnny%20Walker%20Red.aspx

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

Pedigree? RW

 

[OH Breeder]

Johnny Walker REd worked great on a purbred Sonny Daughter. The heifer is very deep and moderate with a baby doll disposition. Structurely sound.
I know you said no black but Hannibal works on just those types of females. Good disposition.
Kadabara would work and would also give you a

 

[sue]

The cow is a Monu 4X X BJR Duchess- 5 year old. I cannot post pics? 
I have seen Johnny Red calves and have liked them ..... Charlois suggestion too?

 

[Hollywood27]

Yellow Jacket or Beat the Heat.

 

[fullblood]

sue i have some old fullblood maine that will make her chubby also put a big white heart on there head .

 

[sue]

She is already the chubster- I like the heart shape idea on the head, probably my niece would think that is cool.

Yellow Jacket and Beat the heat are carried by major distributors??

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

I've seen some really cool R A X Heet seekers. RW

 

[Hollywood27]

She is already the chubster- I like the heart shape idea on the head, probably my niece would think that is cool.

Yellow Jacket and Beat the heat are carried by major distributors??

Yellow Jacket is carried by Bovine Elite and there is a picture of him on there.  Beat the Heat is a Full Flush / G1 Char cow of Greg Kroupas.  Probably have to get beat the heat semen from Kroupa.

 

[jbzdad]

RW, how about strictly business , looking for maintainer heifers

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

I haven't seen any Hannibles - I've seen some Friction X R A , Heet Seeker X R A, Dr Who X RA and of course H W X RA's. Hannible might be worth a try on the right cow. RW

 

[Mark H]

I would consider using the red Charolais bull HEJ Ripper.  This guy has no holes and just works: http://www.hejcharolais.com/
A red bull that is easier calving with better EPDs is Red Mist: http://www.charolaisbanner.com/semen/redmist.htm  Note that this bull has a birth weight EPD to make him very easy calving on cows.
If you want to use a white bull consider:
Pleasant Dawn Marshall: http://www.charolaisbanner.com/pleasantdawn/70p.htm
MXS Vermillion: http://www.buyagro.com/voegeli/vermillion.htm
HFCC PLD Evolution: http://www.buyagro.com/voegeli/evolution.htm
If you want to ask specific questions on what will work for you cow call or email the breeders.

 

[Show Heifer]

RW, Heat Seeker is a carrier, and she didn't want to use carriers (Good idea Sue!!!) (By the way Sue, you can post pics... just when you type your message go to the button under that says something like "options"... it is there you will find the photo option!)

I like my Hannibals. Will frame them up a bit, add lots of style and clean up fronts. Also no huge calves.
I might lean toward a simmi type bull.... maybe SOS, Climax.

If you want "low birth weight", stay AWAY from HW, HS, SB. I have had several Dr.WHo's with no trouble, but I mate him to some LBW cows. 

I will be getting a JWR calf out of a large 1/2 RA in about a month.....

 

[ROAD WARRIOR]

I really wasn't making any suggestions, just saying what I've seen. I'm not well enough informed on the clubby sires to make a qualified suggestion. RW

 

[Cowfarmer65]

When you say you don't want blacks I'm presuming All black. I have an awesome clubby type Specky bull I'm sending to be drawn this spring, but that will be too late for this year. He's a end of March calf and was Reserve Calf Champ at Agribition. I already have interest for semen by a RA herd in Manitoba, Maine breeder here in Ontario as well as Specky breeders in Aus., Eng.,as well as the U.S. I'll be using him on a select # of my Shorts to make blue roans as well as our Specks.  Google the breed and take a look. I garuntee you'll get a flasy colour and cattle with substance.

 

[sue]

Okay I think I attached Duchess???

 

[sue]

Thanks Show Heifer!! I did it!  The photo was taken in June of 09- she is a great mom and we have a daughter of hers by Captain (SH) in the herd too.  Speckle sounds interesting - I like the idea of Maintainer, is Hannibal Maintainer ??

 

[cowman]

I thinking of something different but not black. Has to be sound, low birth weight and proven. She is 5 frame or less, suprisingly good haired and  huge rib.  I  dont want THC or PHAC but club calf mating for sure.
My nephew is old enough show so we definately want a good disposition. 

Since nobody wants to speak to the elephant in the room I guess I must at least ask...You want to be "clubby", yet no black, no thc, no phc, low birth weight, proven, and be able to FRAME UP and 5 frame cow???

Serious discussion...90% of clubby bulls are either thc or phc. 90% of the remaining 10% are NOT low birth weight. 90% of the remaining bulls won't add growth/qualify as proven.

In all seriousness good luck but I don't think a clubby bull is really what you want.