Why no prices listed on sale cattle?????

[feeder duck]

  Why is it that 90% of all the for sale listings will not list prices on there cattle.  Is it a secret? Are cattle priced differently to different buyers? Are people ashamed of how high they price cattle or how low? I'm just curious.  I just put it on the post and if they sell they sell. Is that wrong ? Am I missing something? This post is not intended to tick people off, I truly am curious.


  Jeff

 

[midway6376]

I always wandered the same thing. It does make it easier when they put it in the post.

 

[Doc]

I agree with you Jeff. I put the price for 2 main reasons. 1- To keep down having to respond to all the tire kickers . 2- Just so I can keep up with what I priced it at. Just because I put a price on an animal doesn't mean I won't listen to an offer. I live by the rule "1 offer is worth a thousand lookers". (thumbsup)

 

[GONEWEST]

Two reasons I don't post prices. One, many people don't want others to know what they pay for cattle. But the main reason is to begin dialog between me and someone who is looking. Although tire kickers become cumbersome, sometimes if you talk to some one you may find that what they really want is something you have that may be on either end of what you had in your ad. Something higher quality or something lesser priced.  If you never talk to them at all, you'll never know that you had something they would be interested in if they knew you had it. I will agree that has to be weighed between all the young people who don't actually make the spending decisions that contact you and the time it takes dealing with them, but you never know who actually is looking that you may have something to sell to them.

 

[LT]

Thank you GoneWest.  We agree.  We don't post because we have found that having a conversation with our potential buyers or "friends" have led us to other things.  WE may not have the calf, but usually get to see cattle at other places and like others on this site, have friends that have calves and we have sent people to others that we know that may have exactly what they want. 

Also we try our best to honor the privacy of our buyers, whether they buy something for $10 or $10000 we feel that is their business and we want it to stay that way.  I am sure all of you agree that confidentiality is important in business and can appreciate that in a business deal.

I don't think anyone is trying to keep prices "a secret" or pull something off.  I think they are just wanting to help the fellow cattle person by sharing the contacts they have established over the years.  We expect the same thing and have gotten that from some really super people.  Everyone has to do what is good for them and where they are.  We strongly encourage people to call us that is why we post our numbers, so people will call.

 

[farmboy]

http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?topic=12569.0

because of that. and all the PM's i got concerning it. 

 

[feeder duck]

Zach:

I absolutely understand. It's not for me to say what anyones cattle are worth. Man once told if you want to know there real worth take them to the sale barn. Not sure how much selling you have done, but you would have got the same feedback  if you had  posted the price or not. When people call or pm and you tell them a price and they do not call or pm back you will know. I will say one thing these days the entire industry is out of wack. I have sold calves on here for $650- on up. I've sold cattle for $3000 that have resold for $15000. The only advice I can give you is (take it for what it is worth,usually not much) Know your own market and a picture is worth a thousand words.  By the way did you get the steer sold?
If you did congrats if you didn't keep tryin!!!

Jeff

 

[Jacob B]

If I am selling private treaty, I would rather not post a price on one that I think has a lot of potential because that potential can be lost in the wrong hands.  I may be able to lower the price if I think it will do me some good to have the calf in the right hand.  Not to make anyone mad, but who I am selling them to makes a big difference to me.  That's why I generally buy more private treaty and sell more private treaty.  Most sales these days will have a price(in the ballpark) figured out before hand anyways if you realy want one.

 

[carl s.]

Zach is upset that somebody was brutally honest about his calf?

I guess karma does exist.

 

[GoWyo]

Zach is upset that somebody was brutally honest about his calf?

I guess karma does exist.

Oh Boy -- here we go again.

 

[shortdawg]

To each their own - I don't have a problem either way

 

[6M Ranch]

This same topic was discussed a year or so ago, and the same responses show up.  The reasons given for not posting aren't logical.  If you don't want to post prices that's your business, but don't say it's privacy, you adjust the price to the buyer, or you try to get additional business, or ???
If you PM me the price, I will know approximately what the eventual buyer paid, and have the freedom to share that with anyone.  If you want additional business, just put other calves available at all prices in your ad.  Adjusting price to the buyer is a quick way to lose that buyer, this year and future years.  If you want to drop the price and help a new kid out, you can still do that if you post the price.  I've bought and sold a lot of different things in my life, and putting the price, location and a picture or two saves everyone a lot of time.

 

[Jill]

I'm going to have to say because 90% of them are overpriced and no one likes criticism! JMO

 

[Steer4Caddy]

Not sure what the wise choice is.  I did recently on a couple of calves that were very good and took good pictures and got no response on here but did sell to the first person that saw them live.  I've seen lesser cattle get alot of responses when no price was added.  Two ways to look at it.  At least I didn't waste my time responding to someone who wasn't going to buy anything or was just seeing if they could steal something.   

 

[farmboy]

Zach is upset that somebody was brutally honest about his calf?

I guess karma does exist.

fail

come say that to my face after you look at the steer Carl.

 

[carl s.]

Grow up kid, that's exactly the kind of reply I'm referring to. 

Zach, you are the absolute last person on this site that should get upset over what somebody else says about your calf.

You made your bed with your attitude over a long period of time.  It would be one thing if you were able to take the kind of comments you dish out yourself.  However, when you then start crying about what this site is about when somebody replies to you in the same way you've replied to numerous people over the past, it's just flat out hypocrisy.

Young man, whether you are old enough to realize it or not, your words impact people.  To be frank, it’s nice to see somebody do to you what you’ve done to so many others.

 

[farmboy]

the epitome of ignorance folks. wander off under your bridge, troll.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Not sure what the wise choice is.  I did recently on a couple of calves that were very good and took good pictures and got no response on here but did sell to the first person that saw them live.  I've seen lesser cattle get alot of responses when no price was added.  Two ways to look at it.  At least I didn't waste my time responding to someone who wasn't going to buy anything or was just seeing if they could steal something.  Amen- Ive posted a bunch of cattle embryos etc-at half my cost and had my wasted 3 days from Sunday by the same "tire kickers", however,I posted a good one-along with another in the mix-the gentleman actually showed up-and wrote a check right there-  so you just never know. I do have to agree with earlier and similar posts-YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR_ IF YOU ARE A BOTTOM FEEDER_DO NOT EXPECT A WORIDBEATER. O0

 

[feeder duck]

  Wow, never thought I would get a few of the responses I have gotten. More of just a what the heck conversation topic.

  Zach: I realize I do not know you and we have never met. The only thing I can tell you if you do not like to have your cattle evaluated you are in the wrong business. DO NOT take that as an insult.IT IS NOT. Your steer looked good, it is not for me to say on price. I will tell you that you need better photos if you are going to price cattle at slightly higher prices on here. AGAIN THAT IS NOT AN INSULT it is a plain fact. A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS!!!!. I take 20 or more photos to find one that may be good. I was told once by former college teacher that "We should learn something everyday"  I am 41 Zach and there are guys in this business that have forgotten more than I know. Take little bits of criticizing and advice a tweak them to make money at this deal.


  Jeff

 

[knabe]

come say that to my face after you look at the steer Carl.

need a different avatar to talk like that. maybe shrek.