hes my favorite bull out there period. use him on your extremely clubby females that you want to make a little more functional. breed him to deep soggy cows because the problem i have seen with the calves is they do not get fat as fast and they do not gut up a whole lot as much as they clubby steers do. good side though is they seem like they walk on air, they are freaky freaky boned. and have necks like giraffes and grow hair like a yak (better than our two monopoly steers we have on feed).and the heifers will actually make mamas and breed when you would like them too. and they are just as good as any cows around, this is my county steer out of a godfather cow. he shows in june