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The Big Show / Re: steer trouble
« on: February 16, 2013, 11:25:00 AM »
Thanks Willow. He gets the exact same every day mixed the same way fed in the same pan etc. as far as he gets a couple flakes of good grass hay after he is fed in the morning and then when we turn him out at night there is a round bale for him and our heifer to eat on . It's also good grass hay same as the other hay he gets on in a round bale.

Well sounds pretty good.  Hopefully he is not over eating at night, but you would probably have picked up on that connection by now...?  If he were overeating at night I imagine he would have less of an appetite in the morning.  We have a market heifer right now that is really, really picky and the smallest thing can take her off of feed.  It does make you crazy I know that for sure!

The Big Show / Re: steer trouble
« on: February 16, 2013, 11:11:00 AM »
We had a TW steer last year.  He weighed less at our weigh in and our fair is the same time.  His appetite was similar, not real aggressive.  He made it just fine.  I am by no means a professional, but just make sure he is getting enough roughage, but not too much, and try and keep him on whatever amount of feed he will consistently clean up.  I wouldn't throw everything in the book at him as sometimes I think this does more harm than good.  Keep it as simple as possible and as consistant as possible.  Feed as close to 12 hours apart as you can every single day.  It has also been our experience if they don't have a good clean water source they will go off of feed.  I know you probably already know this stuff it just never hurts to remind ourselves.  On the days that he doesn't eat look at everything that is going on.  Did he eat his hay from the night before?  Has he drank as much water as he usually does?  Is his feed pan clean and free of manure, fines, etc.?  Has the weather changed?  Did I feed him at the same time today as I did yesterday?  Did I mix his feed exactly the same as I did yesterday?  Some of them are just that sensitive.  Another thing we have found is some type of a lick tub whether it is a stress tub or something similar to lick on throughout the day tends to stimulate their appetite.  Good luck and don't panic just look at all the variables. 

The Big Show / Re: School me on Cameras
« on: February 12, 2013, 11:03:38 AM »
If you are looking at a DSLR I would go to a local camera shop and talk to the people even if you don't make your purchase there... But Cannon and Nikon both make great products with lots of lens options. I personally use a cannon and have had great luck with it.

Ditto. I wouldn't go with anything that has a digital zoom.  I have a Canon DSLR and my favorite lens is the 18-200mm.

The Big Show / Re: Opinions on maine cow?
« on: February 12, 2013, 11:01:19 AM »
Wow we have some that look real similar in body type and we are in the same boat.  We have had a hard time finding something that they really click with.  We have always bred pretty conservatively because we always figured it wasn't worth killing a cow to get a calf, but maybe that's where we are failing.  Maybe we should give the cow more credit in what she is capable of and breed her accordingly.  I hope you find something that works. 

The Big Show / Re: Heifer Feed Question
« on: February 09, 2013, 10:02:27 PM »

BTW: Our ration was developed to feed our Maine-Anjou Show Heifers in the 1990s.  Those calves were quite a bit larger than Most Show Calves today.

As a general rule, your calves (Heifers & Steers) should be consuming 3% of their body weight daily for about the first year.  Some harder keepers may need 4%.  However, you should be monitoring the progression of each calf daily, and may need to add or subtract a few pounds to maintain peak condition.   A great Feed Program will make a good calf much better. Notice I said Feed Program. The Program is much more important than the feed.

AAOK, thank you.  I was hoping you would chime in.  We are diligent with our feed schedule and care and I know that plays a huge roll in outcome.  Thanks again for the info.

The Big Show / Re: Heifer Feed Question
« on: February 08, 2013, 12:38:05 PM »
Thanks for the response.  I have read AAOK's feed mix and it sounds really good it just didn't specifically address heifers that I could recall.  We feed a bagged feed and I kinda know some of the real basics, but just didn't know if there was a certain percentage that people started them on just as a guide in the beginning.  I know you kinda have to watch and adjust as needed as you go along.  I also did a search in the old topics and it didn't really give me what I was looking for.   

The Big Show / Heifer Feed Question
« on: February 08, 2013, 10:07:15 AM »
I have a question about feeding breeding heifers.  What % of their body weight should you be feeding and what should the ration look like.  End goal is to be competitive in the show ring and have a heifer that will settle and not be morbidly obese at the end.     

The Big Show / Re: Hair problems
« on: February 04, 2013, 11:37:50 AM »
It seems like the more you can work the poo balls out of their hair the less it will accumulate especially if you can make a clean dry spot for them to bed.  We are in the same boat weather wise and having a clean dry place to lay makes all the difference in the world. 

The Big Show / Re: Big Guns?
« on: February 01, 2013, 09:53:18 AM »
I Will share pictures when the calf arrives.  Yes he already has calves on the ground.  They sold a couple nice ones at the Maine sale at the NWSS.  I specifically remember saying "wow I hope ours is that nice".  Fingers crossed.

The Big Show / Re: Big Guns?
« on: January 31, 2013, 10:25:18 AM »
Give me two weeks and I'll let ya know.  I have a cow due to him in about 10 days.

The Big Show / Re: ocho cinco steer
« on: January 30, 2013, 04:54:42 PM »
Like most everyone else I think he looks fine.  He is standing funny like they all do when learning to be on the end of a rope and the dung balls don't help his current appearance, but sometimes that can't be helped.  He just needs feed and time.  Our Fair is end of July and yours being in August I wouldn't wait around getting him on feed, 3% of his body weight like VC mentioned.  Good luck with him.  Post pictures as he progresses.

I have seen a few Yellow Jacket's and am actually feeding one now.  The ones I have seen have been out of Maine x Angus Dirty cows. I really love the bone and foot size and how correct they have all seemed in their feet and legs.  What I don't like is the frame size on some of them ( a little on the large side).  Not super good hair.  The man who calved these Yellow Jacket's out has been in the business for many, many years and said they were some of the biggest calves he has ever had.  Again, this is just been my experience and I just thought I would share the info for what it's worth.  Good luck with your flush.

The Big Show / Re: Maine Bull Big Guns
« on: January 16, 2013, 09:11:12 AM »
I have a Shorthorn cow bred to him right now.  She is due in about three weeks.  I will let you know how it turns out.

The Big Show / Re: crazy heifer/long story
« on: January 11, 2013, 12:05:09 PM »
I wouldn't hesitate to cover all your bases and if you feel that doing that means getting a written statement from your vet I would do so.  It surely couldn't hurt.  However, it sounds like you are dealing with a professional bunch of folks and things should go well.  Best of luck to you and your son.

The Big Show / Re: I 80 X Mossy oak
« on: January 08, 2013, 10:53:57 AM »
Idk bout 180 working on them, but I wanted to ask you guys what you thought of Mossy Oak cows. I have a monopoly heifer that we are planning on flushing and We plan to flush her to Irish Whiskey, but I also want to flush her to Nutt N butt business and point taken just for replacement females and I have even though about flushing her to Mossy oak just for replacement females and selling the steer eggs. I figured his daughters were really good considering he is out of full flush. I had one but she had two calves born dead so we sold her.. Thanks

We have a Mossy Oak cow and I love her.  She is real quiet and one of the best mother cows we have.  We have had a little trouble finding something that really clicks with her genetically, but other than that she is one of my favorites.  Hasn't given us two minutes worth of trouble in the last seven years.

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