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« on: March 02, 2012, 09:21:55 PM »
I have been having the opportunity to work at Gordon Turner Farms Ltd where he runs a large operation of commercial females.  In the last 2 days (or my total of 14 hours) I have tobogganed a total of 32 calves in to be processed.  All of these calves are unassisted births. What is very interesting for me is that almost every female on the place has Shorthorn influence in fact Mr. Turner is so proud of his females he orders Shorthorn tags (not Angus) moreover when buying Shorthorn bulls he prefers roan which is evident in his bull pens.   

Attached are some pictures:
First picture is a Blue Roan female sired by a Shorthorn and out of a Shorthorn x Angus, her calf is again sired by a Shorthorn
Second Picture is a 3/4 Shorthorn 1/4 Simmental
Third Picture is a Shorthorn Simmental Cross cow
Fourth Picture is her 2 year old daughter of the 3rd by a Shorthorn and her steer calf
Fifth Picture a couple of cute blues one is out of an Angus Sim and by a Shorty and the other is out of a Shorty x Angus by a Shorthorn


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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 09:47:43 PM »
Blue steer calf (just because he is cute) out of a Shorty x Simmental

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 10:25:47 PM »
I am a sucker for baby calves! Too cute!! We used a white shorthorn bull on 1/2 of our commercial cows this year. We had two black cows that gave us blue roan heifers but other black cows gave us red roans. Some of these cows have never given us a red calf. The other 1/2 of our cows were bred by a red roan bull and they are coming as red roans or almost solid red mostly. We did get one black calf off of him but he has a red tinge to him so he almost looks dark brown (like chocolate) It is a lot of fun going to the cows right now to see all the new borns and to see what the newest one will look like! 
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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 10:57:25 PM »
Cool post! Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 11:22:52 PM »
Thanks for sharing! Don't see many shorthorn x simmental mixes... pretty neat look blue roans with the almost blazed (more of a glazed) face!
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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 11:28:15 PM »
Jaimie, I was just curious if they are still using many or any simmental bulls.  I remember several years ago when they were buying a lot of top quality simmentals off of the front end of sales for very good money but can not recall seeing where they have bought any for a while.

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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2012, 02:53:52 AM »
Neat realy like those blues...

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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2012, 06:29:31 AM »
Great post... I think it is great that they are using roan bulls on there commercial cows.  I also think that is is crucial for shorthorn to survive ( Or began to be somebody) in the commercial industry that we get more shorthorn characterized bulls out there.  It will do us much more good in the long run to have big sets of calves going through feedyards that are blue roan or at least show some characteristics of shorthorn genetics.  I am afraid that if we just continue to sell red bulls to the commercial industry the calves will be hidden or sold as something else and the breed will never get recognized as the reference breed for the group. 

A couple of weeks ago I was sitting in a feedyard office in southern Minnesota and was talking to a cattle buyer for Tyson (Don Johnson).  He had just broght back the closeouts for a load of shorthorn sired steers and that was the most profitable load of cattle delivered ever from that feedyard.  Don told me that he believes it is crucial as well to get more white and roan bulls sold into the commercal industry and he could find many feedyards that would love to feed these kinds of cattle (and they will pay for them!) He also emphasized however that is is absolutely necesarry to get into some larger operations because non of these yards want to buy a group of 15 calves.  They like to fill pens...80+ hd would be very benificial.

 

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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2012, 10:08:02 AM »
Very good examples-x breeding is what its about-for alot of breeds O0

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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 11:33:30 AM »
cool color on some of them
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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2012, 10:14:06 PM »
Jaimie, I was just curious if they are still using many or any simmental bulls.  I remember several years ago when they were buying a lot of top quality simmentals off of the front end of sales for very good money but can not recall seeing where they have bought any for a while.

He is using Simmental bulls, approximately 1/3 of his bull battery would be Simmental (1/3 Shorthorn and 1/3 Angus).  I believe he is heading to a Simmental Bull Sale on the 10th.  His 3 way cross cows are absolutely outstanding females! When I have more time I will walk through the bull pens and take some pictures :)

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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2012, 07:20:50 PM »
few more pictures :)

These Shorthorn influence cattle are by bulls from Eionmor, Muridale, Saskvalley, Diamond, Horseshoe Creek, Highland Stock Farms and more.

 Gordon Turner  has already purchased a half interest in Diamond Xplosion 23X privately (we have retained semen rights as well as walking rights until May 1 every year).  There are plans on attending more bull sales for Shorthorns (as well as Angus and Simmental bulls).  
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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2012, 07:50:56 PM »
Great post... I think it is great that they are using roan bulls on there commercial cows.  I also think that is is crucial for shorthorn to survive ( Or began to be somebody) in the commercial industry that we get more shorthorn characterized bulls out there.  It will do us much more good in the long run to have big sets of calves going through feedyards that are blue roan or at least show some characteristics of shorthorn genetics.  I am afraid that if we just continue to sell red bulls to the commercial industry the calves will be hidden or sold as something else and the breed will never get recognized as the reference breed for the group. 
 

This is a quality point you make jdmc.  I think breed identity will continue to become more important.

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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2012, 10:00:38 PM »
Does he feed out his steers? Or are they sold in the fall?

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Re: Commercial Shorthorns
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2012, 09:16:24 AM »
Does he feed out his steers? Or are they sold in the fall?

The steers are fed out at Gordon Turner Farms Ltd.  Heifers are sold as replacements for other commercial producers or are retained as replacements.  With well over 100 calves being born in the last few days we haven't needed to assist one (aside from defrosting one yesterday that was born during the snow storm), they are born and up and sucking within minutes.

 

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