Meriwong Royal Grant pedigree

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Okotoks

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I have two vials of Meriwong Royal Grant semen which I plan on using in a flush. He was instrumental in the Mandalong herd. In the top of his pedigree there are older American polled shorthorns, Ceremonious and Oakwood and I was wondering if anyone had info on them?

            OAKWOOD DETERMINATION (A.S.H.B.) Red M54/52324 
    HIGHBANK DETERMINATION IMP. IN DAM.U.S.A.! (P) Red M57/02793 
            CEREMONIOUS DOROTHY 5TH (IMP. U.S.A.) (P) Roan F57/05683 
Sire: HIGHBANK ROYAL DUKE (P) Red Little White M57/03734 
            COMMANDER IN CHIEF (A.S.H.B.) Red M54/23662 
    OAKWOOD LAVENDER 27TH (IMP U S A) (P) Red Little White F57/06188 
          GLEN KNOLLS LAVENDER 4TH (A.S.H.B.) Roan F54/92503 
MERIWONG ROYAL GRANT (P) Red M59/01381 
            GUNDIBRI LADDIE 28TH (P) Roan M57/00527 
    GUNNAWARRA LADDIE 6TH (P) Roan M57/00895 
          GUNNAWARRA MAY (P) Red F57/01647 
Dam: MERIWONG ADELE (P) Roan F57/08513 
          GUNNAWARRA RADIANT 6TH (P) Red M57/00411 
    MERIWONG AMENITY (P) Roan F57/05167 
          BOGAN AMENITY (P) White F57/03299 
 

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I believe the Ceremonious herd was the Leemon family in Illinois.  The Oakwood herd was very noteworthy when we were just starting out in the early 60's.  I can't remember their family name.  Oakwood Gambler seems to be a name that I remember.  I think Highbank Royal Duke was the sire of Dandaloo Royal Duke that was used in Canada by Louada Farms among others in the late 60's or early 70's.  I'll have to check, but I think he was the sire of their Kelso Ignition bull.  Commander in Chief was also a noted sire years ago.  At one time, ABS had some Austrailian bulls available, the names Merriwong Smuggler and Lone Pine Grand Society seem familiar.  It seems as if there was a third bull, but I can't remember his name.  They were available from ABS just after Leader 21st and Leader 9th became popular.  Super Flag seemed to open things up for the Austrailian cattle at the time.  I'll have to check my old magazines.  I just looked at the old photos of Dandaloo Royal Duke and Kelso Ignition about two weeks ago.  I wish I had some time to post them.  We'll se how it goes. 
 

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oakview said:
I believe the Ceremonious herd was the Leemon family in Illinois.  The Oakwood herd was very noteworthy when we were just starting out in the early 60's.  I can't remember their family name.  Oakwood Gambler seems to be a name that I remember.  I think Highbank Royal Duke was the sire of Dandaloo Royal Duke that was used in Canada by Louada Farms among others in the late 60's or early 70's.  I'll have to check, but I think he was the sire of their Kelso Ignition bull.  Commander in Chief was also a noted sire years ago.  At one time, ABS had some Austrailian bulls available, the names Merriwong Smuggler and Lone Pine Grand Society seem familiar.  It seems as if there was a third bull, but I can't remember his name.  They were available from ABS just after Leader 21st and Leader 9th became popular.  Super Flag seemed to open things up for the Austrailian cattle at the time.  I'll have to check my old magazines.  I just looked at the old photos of Dandaloo Royal Duke and Kelso Ignition about two weeks ago.  I wish I had some time to post them.  We'll se how it goes.   
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Any info would be much appreciated.
 

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I checked on the ASA website and Highbank Matchless Duke is listed as the sire of Dandaloo Royal Duke. I would bet that Matchless Duke and Royal Duke were related, but couldn't tell on the ASA site.
 

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Oakwood Shorthorns was the Teegardin family.  I found a photo of Commander in Chief, it is very grainy.  I'll see what I can do. 
 

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oakview said:
I checked on the ASA website and Highbank Matchless Duke is listed as the sire of Dandaloo Royal Duke. I would bet that Matchless Duke and Royal Duke were related, but couldn't tell on the ASA site.
They are both sons of of Highbank Royal Duke out of imported Oakwood cows. One by Oakwood Conqueror a son of Edyllyn Royal Leader 2nd the other by Commander In Chief.
Both Bogan Yalta (Remitall) and Dandaloo Royal Duke (Louada) were by Matchless Duke.
Would there be much of these bloodlines left in the US?
 

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ASA #C664654 DIAMOND SECRET DELIGHT 5D direct descendant of Meriwong Royal Grant.Sired by 3690301 MANDALONG ROYAL FERRARI who was a grandson of meriwong royal grant.

It is amazing what you can find in the ASA database.
 

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ASA #C664654 DIAMOND SECRET DELIGHT 5D direct descendant of Meriwong Royal Grant.Sired by 3690301 MANDALONG ROYAL FERRARI who was a grandson of meriwong royal grant.

It is amazing what you can find in the ASA database.
Diamond Secret Delight 5D was a straight bred Australian heifer that Muridale bought from us in our first "All Thta Glitters Sale". By full Australian I mean she traced to 100% Australian imports in every line. Of course in their background were the US catlle that were exported to Australia. I would like to know more about the Oakwood and Ceremonious herds and if there were pics all the better.
We have two yearling Mandalong Royal Ferrari heifers. We like them a lot which is why we are planning on using Meriwong Royal Grant. Ferrari was linebred to him.
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I have two vials of Bogan Yalta left in my inventory. He was sired by Highbank Matchless Duke, who sired several major show winners in Australia in 1967 to 1970.  Matchless Duke was sired by Highbank Determination , who was bred in the US and calved in Australia. Highbank Determination was sired by Oakwood Detrermination  and his dam, Cermonious Dorothy 5th was exported to Australia as a bred female. The dam of Matchless Duke was also an US imported female named Oakwood Nonpariel 3rd. Therefore Highbank Matchless Duke was 100% American bred. Bogan Yalta was Junior Champion at the 1965 Sydney Royal Show. He was a big long bodied bull for that era.

The Oakwood herd was owned by the Paul Teegardin family in Ohio as oakview has mentioned. They were one of the early breeders of polled Shorthorns in the US. They dispersed in the late 60s . My dad and myself were travelling through Shorthorn herds in Ontario a few weeks before their dispersal and we decided to drive down and see this herd before it was dispersed. Most of the cow herd was extremely small framed and there were also some issues with udders. We did see some pretty good cows for that time, but I guess I would have to say that both dad and myself were quite disappointed with the overall quality of the cattle we saw. We decided that there was better cattle available in Ontario and we went back and purchased a few head there. I still have the Oakwood dispersal Catalog and have quite a few of Australian Shorthorn industry, that many of the long time breeders blacklisted him and his cattle as they felt he had to be adding Maine genetics to have been able to reach such prominence so quickly. I think this is proof that people are all made alike, no matter what side of the planet they live on. Winning can often be a very lonely place.
 

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I was at Teegarden's in 1974 when I was first starting out.I saw a group of heifers maybe 30 hd. that whether you liked them or not you would call them the most uniform bunch of cattle you ever saw.The set of cows I saw were a little more diverse,there were about 6 or 7 daughters of a Sutherland bull that were quite a bit bigger than the rest and I tried to buy a couple but they were priced higher than this JR. in High School could afford.While I was there Jack  who was a vet noticed a calf with pinkeye probably about 300lbs.He roped it on the first try and gave him a shot.I n one of my old Shorthorn Worlds from the 30's there were 2 pages of pictures maybe 25 or 30 of Polled Shorthorns that had been exported to Australia from herds like Teegarden's,Hultines,Leemons etc.These cattle would be quite popular and practical today.I still can not figure out why they would have left that type for the ponys.
 

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Here are some photos for you to savor.  The Oakwood bull is sired by Commander In Chief and was reserve champion bull at the 1951 International in Chicago.  Mandalong Royal Ambassador was sired by Meriwong Royal Grant and won the 1970 Sydney Show.  Dandaloo Royal Duke and Bogan Yalta were used in North America I suppose with some success.  I've got lots of pictures, just need time to find them all.  I'll keep looking others if you're interested.
 

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Just an FYI

Henix Teegardin  assumed management of the family's cattle breeding operation at Oakwood Stock Farm after her husband's (Dr. Paul Warner Teegardin II)  death in 2008. She passed in august 2010 at age of 70.
 

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oakview said:
Here are some photos for you to savor.  The Oakwood bull is sired by Commander In Chief and was reserve champion bull at the 1951 International in Chicago.  Mandalong Royal Ambassador was sired by Meriwong Royal Grant and won the 1970 Sydney Show.  Dandaloo Royal Duke and Bogan Yalta were used in North America I suppose with some success.  I've got lots of pictures, just need time to find them all.  I'll keep looking others if you're interested.
Thanks for posting the pics, if you have time i would be interested in seeing some more.  (thumbsup) One of my favorite bulls was Sutherland Ransom 179 and he was out of a daughter of Dandaloo Royal Duke, probably one of his most influential descendants in N.A.
        x3358731 PLEASANT DAWN SEAL 2ND
  3441582 KENMAR RANSOM 32Z
        xC552652 KENMAR BEVERLY 28U
Sire: 3550480 MILL BROOK RANSOM G 9
        xCB413127 THOMAS MAX 31V
  x3451502 THOMAS DORIS 26A
        x3451453 THOMAS LEADER DORIS 5W
SUTHERLAND RANSOM 179
       xA573392 HIGHBANK MATCHLESS DUKE
    x3465219 DANDALOO ROYAL DUKE
        xA581099 DANDALOO DAISY
Dam: x3528396 SUTHERLAND BEAUTY 664
        x3186233 CAPTIVATOR OF BAPTON
     x3283179 SUTHERLAND BEAUTY BON
        x3103580 GLATWYN BEAUTY BEA

 

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Just an FYI

Henix Teegardin  assumed management of the family's cattle breeding operation at Oakwood Stock Farm after her husband's (Dr. Paul Warner Teegardin II)  death in 2008. She passed in august 2010 at age of 70.
So did anyone take over from her? Did they still have some shorthorns?
 

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I have to say, I saw a few pretty handy calves by Mandalong Super Flag (Royal Grant grandson) while I was in Canada.
 

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I have to say, I saw a few pretty handy calves by Mandalong Super Flag (Royal Grant grandson) while I was in Canada.

I am almost positive that the bull you pictured is not Mandalong Super Flag. I suspect that it is actually his son Crestdale Super Flag 14G who had a interesting story behind him.
 

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Okotoks said:
OH Breeder said:
Just an FYI

Henix Teegardin  assumed management of the family's cattle breeding operation at Oakwood Stock Farm after her husband's (Dr. Paul Warner Teegardin II)  death in 2008. She passed in august 2010 at age of 70.
So did anyone take over from her? Did they still have some shorthorns?

They had two children. A son and daughter. It did say she ran shorthorn cattle before her death. It does not say if someone took over the farm and cattle. I found it interesting they still ran cattle in 2010.
 

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vcsf said:
thunderdownunder said:
I have to say, I saw a few pretty handy calves by Mandalong Super Flag (Royal Grant grandson) while I was in Canada.

I am almost positive that the bull you pictured is not Mandalong Super Flag. I suspect that it is actually his son Crestdale Super Flag 14G who had a interesting story behind him.

vcsf... u are correct. The bull pictured is Crestdale Super Flag 14G who topped the 1973 Regina Bull Sale at $41,500. There were more leading cattleman from many breeds bidding on this bull to the $40,000 range where it settled down to a partnership of 3 Sask Shorthorn breeders and Beartooth Ranch from Montana, who was a leading Polled Hereford operation at that time. There were Hereford, Simmental. Angus and Shorthorn breeders bidding on this bull past $20,000. He was the largest bull of all breeds at this sale and there were about 1500 bulls in this sale. There were almost 1000 Polled Hereford bulls alone. How times have changed!
 

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justintime said:
vcsf said:
thunderdownunder said:
I have to say, I saw a few pretty handy calves by Mandalong Super Flag (Royal Grant grandson) while I was in Canada.

I am almost positive that the bull you pictured is not Mandalong Super Flag. I suspect that it is actually his son Crestdale Super Flag 14G who had a interesting story behind him.

vcsf... u are correct. The bull pictured is Crestdale Super Flag 14G who topped the 1973 Regina Bull Sale at $41,500. There were more leading cattleman from many breeds bidding on this bull to the $40,000 range where it settled down to a partnership of 3 Sask Shorthorn breeders and Beartooth Ranch from Montana, who was a leading Polled Hereford operation at that time. There were Hereford, Simmental. Angus and Shorthorn breeders bidding on this bull past $20,000. He was the largest bull of all breeds at this sale and there were about 1500 bulls in this sale. There were almost 1000 Polled Hereford bulls alone. How times have changed!

JIT I just remember as a kid hearing at some family holiday dinners about the problems 14G had in the pasture and how disappointing it was considering how impressive the bull was.
 

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vcsf said:
thunderdownunder said:
I have to say, I saw a few pretty handy calves by Mandalong Super Flag (Royal Grant grandson) while I was in Canada.

I am almost positive that the bull you pictured is not Mandalong Super Flag. I suspect that it is actually his son Crestdale Super Flag 14G who had a interesting story behind him.

My bad... blonde moment!  ::) Hopefully I've hit the right one this time....
 

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