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Offline Dohcvtec

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« on: January 17, 2017, 05:23:12 AM »
Hey there checking in from iowa. We are new to the cattle world and about a year and a half ago we got our first pair of black angus heifers then a little later on we decided to get ourself a charolais Heifer.  They where all ai last June and July and will start to calve mid March. Question is what's everyone doing as far as vaccines for the calves, like I said we are totally new to this but wanna get knowledge needed to have healthy calves . I will post pictures of our girls .







Also what's does everyone think of the overall condition of our girls. Have had some people say they might be too big or fat . For feed they are on free access of grass Alfalfa hay and about 5 pounds of ddgs each a day but starting to work the ddgs down till after they calve . And have a mineral block out for them but also going to be getting the purina wind and rain tub for them here shortly

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2017, 05:40:15 AM »
If they are to fat mine are obese.

For vaccination, at 7mo bred or so I give the cows a triangle 10 shot, at 2mo old the calves get triangle 10 and covexin 8, and then again when weaned.

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 08:34:38 AM »
we use scour guard 4kc every year on the cows give it 4-6 weeks before they have their calf, if its the first time they are getting it you have to give 2 doses

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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 08:38:47 AM »
Preg gaurd 9 and you should give them two rounds of scout guard shots to protect the calf.... I wouldn't say they are to fat but they are plenty big! Stop the ddg, and you were giving them plain ddg? Gotta be careful with that or you could see some thing like polio from it.  Nice cattle

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 12:26:39 PM »
once PMH and inforce 3 in the nose right after birth

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2017, 12:45:38 PM »
  Spend time trying to learn which diseases that you want or need in protect your cattle herd from instead of getting all hung up about which name brand vaccine that this person or that person uses. IMO it's the only way that you can ever really understand what you are doing. Drug companies are always coming up with new products and if you don't understand what you are doing they'll sell you whatever they want you to use instead of you being in charge of what you are wanting to do. I hope this makes sense.

   http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/hall-of-fame/protocol-for-vaccinations/

   Above is a link that I hope will help you to begin to understand. DL is a vet.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2017, 12:48:07 PM by CAB »

Offline Dohcvtec

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2017, 05:06:30 PM »
Yeah all this just gets confusing especially for a newbie like myself . I have heard some people say you can't vaccine newborn calves and some say you need to right when they are born

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2017, 06:28:12 PM »
  I would say if some of that info seems a little confusing to you then I would suggest going to your vet. and asking them what they would recommend for your vaccination program and if you want to ever understand the reasons you'll need to ask why they recommend such & such a product.

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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2017, 07:20:50 PM »
Yes going to visit with my vet tomorrow and see what he says. He's not the best at answering questions like this that's why I wanted to start doing my own research.  I appreciate everyone's comments

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 09:18:20 AM »
otherwise google beef cattle vaccine plans or protocols, lots of information out there.  i use once pmh, inforce 3, bovishield gold with lepto, and alpha 7

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 01:03:10 PM »
So just got done visiting with my vet and this is what he recommended let me know what you guys think. For the heifers he said scour guard 4kc now then again in about 4 weeks. For the calves he said nothing at birth and inforce 3 and alpha 7 at 3-4 weeks old

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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 03:29:26 PM »
  It makes sense. The only other question would be are your cows all up to date with their vaccinations? I assume that you'll probably pour and worm them when they go through the chute.

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2017, 04:26:57 PM »
Yes they have been poured and wormed

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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2017, 05:44:10 PM »
  Most outfits would pour and worm  minimum of twice per year.
  I have a little more time now and I really think there are kind of two schools of thought as to when to vaccinate calves. one being asap after being born and the other as your vet recommended at 3 to 4 weeks of age. It really gets down to whether or not you can catch them somewhat easily at 3 to 4 weeks old and also whether or not you have any history of problems related to the clostridium bacteria's. Another alternative to running your cows through the chute twice to give them the Scour Guard 4KC shot would be to give the calves the calf Scour Guard shot asap after hitting the ground. Do you know what the Scour Guard 4KC includes by chance? I'm curious if it includes any vaccines that are for the cow or if it is mainly for scour protection for the calves.

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Re: Vaccines
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2017, 06:56:13 PM »
CAB here is a link to info on scourguard 4kc

https://www.zoetisus.com/products/beef/scourguard-4kc.aspx

 

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