Adkins Mr Right On- Simmental bull question

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LN

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First I've seen of him. Looks pretty good. Not loving the combination of low growth and milk, the rest of his EPDs are ok. Looks to be a little linebred too.

He would be one I'd want to see calves out of before I considered using him.
 

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His daddy is a baldy herdsire out at Yardley Cattle Co. in Utah , i do know that much ! I guess thats enough info for me to be curious about him considering the other side of his pedigree is full of household names in the simmy world. Be one to try possibly.
 

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Muddy Creek Show Cattle said:
leanbeef said:
I like the bull in his picture. His numbers are pretty weak, though.
These were my thoughts.

Yes, I didn't like the numbers. Like LN said, low combination of growth and milk. He looks pretty decent though. Just curious to see if anyone had seen anything out of him even though he is a youngin'! Thanks  ;D
 

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When I look @ who raised him & who owns him now, I think the bull will have  some pretty good play. Which #s bother everyone so much when compared to the PB Simi averages?
 

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He is way short on grow, in a calving ease situation Shear Force even has more grow than him, he is alot worse on his MM than alot of bulls. He is pretty good for MCE but being line bred Dream On it scares me, the few I have owned have been my hardest breeding cows. Nice looking bull just not for me.
 

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2012 Purebred Simmental Percentile Table 

%  CE  BW  WW  YW  MCE  MLK  MWW  STAY  DOC  CWT  YG  MRB  BF  REA  WBSF  API  TI 
1  15.0  -3.5  49.9  87.5  17.2  14.5  32.2  27.3  15.3  19.0  -0.21  0.47  -0.031  0.60  -0.56  145  75 
2  14.1  -3.0  47.6  83.8  16.4  13.2  30.6  26.2  14.6  16.5  -0.19  0.43  -0.026  0.55  -0.53  140  74 
3  13.6  -2.7  46.2  81.5  15.9  12.4  29.6  25.5  14.2  14.8  -0.17  0.41  -0.023  0.52  -0.51  137  73 
4  13.1  -2.5  45.1  79.7  15.5  11.8  28.9  25.0  13.9  13.6  -0.17  0.40  -0.020  0.50  -0.50  135  72 
5  12.8  -2.3  44.3  78.3  15.2  11.3  28.2  24.5  13.6  12.6  -0.16  0.38  -0.019  0.48  -0.49  133  71 
10  11.6  -1.6  41.3  73.5  14.1  9.5  26.2  23.1  12.7  9.2  -0.13  0.34  -0.012  0.41  -0.45  127  69 
15  10.8  -1.2  39.3  70.2  13.4  8.3  24.8  22.1  12.1  6.9  -0.12  0.30  -0.007  0.37  -0.42  123  68 
20  10.2  -0.8  37.7  67.6  12.8  7.4  23.6  21.3  11.7  5.0  -0.10  0.28  -0.004  0.34  -0.40  120  67 
25  9.7  -0.5  36.3  65.3  12.3  6.6  22.7  20.7  11.3  3.5  -0.09  0.26  -0.001  0.31  -0.38  117  66 
30  9.2  -0.2  35.1  63.3  11.8  5.9  21.8  20.1  10.9  2.0  -0.08  0.24  0.002  0.28  -0.37  114  65 
35  8.7  0.0  34.0  61.4  11.4  5.2  21.0  19.5  10.6  0.7  -0.07  0.22  0.005  0.26  -0.35  112  64 
40  8.3  0.3  32.9  59.7  11.0  4.6  20.2  19.0  10.2  -0.5  -0.06  0.20  0.007  0.23  -0.34  110  63 
45  7.9  0.5  31.8  58.0  10.6  4.0  19.5  18.5  9.9  -1.7  -0.05  0.19  0.009  0.21  -0.32  108  62 
50  7.5  0.7  30.8  56.3  10.3  3.4  18.8  18.0  9.6  -2.9  -0.04  0.17  0.012  0.19  -0.31  105  62 
55  7.1  1.0  29.8  54.6  9.9  2.8  18.1  17.5  9.3  -4.1  -0.03  0.16  0.014  0.16  -0.30  103  61 
60  6.7  1.2  28.7  52.9  9.5  2.2  17.3  16.9  9.0  -5.3  -0.02  0.14  0.016  0.14  -0.28  101  60 
65  6.2  1.4  27.6  51.1  9.1  1.5  16.6  16.4  8.7  -6.5  -0.02  0.12  0.019  0.12  -0.27  99  59 
70  5.8  1.7  26.5  49.3  8.7  0.9  15.8  15.9  8.3  -7.8  -0.01  0.10  0.021  0.09  -0.25  97  59 
75  5.3  2.0  25.3  47.2  8.2  0.2  14.9  15.3  8.0  -9.2  0.01  0.08  0.024  0.07  -0.24  94  58 
80  4.8  2.3  23.9  45.0  7.8  -0.6  14.0  14.6  7.6  -10.8  0.02  0.06  0.027  0.04  -0.22  91  57 
85  4.1  2.6  22.3  42.4  7.2  -1.6  12.8  13.8  7.1  -12.7  0.03  0.04  0.031  0.00  -0.20  88  56 
90  3.4  3.1  20.3  39.1  6.4  -2.7  11.4  12.8  6.5  -15.0  0.05  0.01  0.035  -0.04  -0.17  84  54 
95  2.2  3.7  17.3  34.2  5.4  -4.5  9.3  11.4  5.6  -18.4  0.07  -0.04  0.042  -0.11  -0.13  78  52 
Avg  7.5  0.7  30.8  56.3  10.3  3.4  18.8  18.0  9.6  -2.9  -0.04  0.17  0.012  0.19  -0.31  105  62 

 

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Adkins red rock star is the first calf out of "Rocky", now owed by Nancy Adkins and Jeff Cagwin.  He was res grand simmi bull at the illinois state fair and also was shown as the cow calf pair which went on to be supreme champion.  
 

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CAB he is in top 20% for CE, 35% for BW, 80% WW, 75% for YW, 65% for MCE, actually lower than top 95% for MWW, 95% for milk,        35% API, 60% TI. Numbers wise he ain't too hot but like I said he is a good looking son of a gun. Maybe on a milky growing clubby kind of a cow he might work really good one. I'll stick with A.I. bulls that are at least breed average tho. His mother only has one registered calf also. Just him! I like to see a few progeny before I'd use a bull. JMO
 

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He'll be  a fun one to follow up on. I'm hoping to see him this coming weekend. I've heard that he is in @ Nichols Cryo-genetics. Hoping to see Hard Whiskey also. I've heard that he is in @ Hawkeye/Adel, Ia.
 

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heard from a guy that saw him yesterday at Nichols.  Described him as ok on bone, GREAT from the side, moderate, really good built and excellent on feet and legs.  adequate muscled.  His first comment was Dream On with a white face.  he will use him
 

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Me said:
Adkins red rock star is the first calf out of "Rocky", now owed by Nancy Adkins and Jeff Cagwin.  He was res grand simmi bull at the illinois state fair and also was shown as the cow calf pair which went on to be supreme champion.  

For those that look up to see how many calves are registered and think, not many, must not be that good, might want to think about it like this, only one calf registered, but wow look @ at that one calf's show record!! What were his odds?

Kind of a little like the Wilson sired calf being named RGC @ the Iowa State fair. How many calves do you think were born in the spring of 2010? 20 max?
 

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Unless I'm reading the pedigree incorrectly, he's double-bred Dream On and also double-bred the Sophie cow....interesting.....

certainly looks good.
 

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double bred Dream ON and double bred Sophie although several generations back.. his sire is Right on ( Built Right x WLE Sophie) and his dam is Dream On  x Sophie R727.  R727 is a RCC Headliner on WLE Sophie, the dam of Right On  9FB3 is the angus in the pedigree. 
 

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CAB said:
He'll be  a fun one to follow up on. I'm hoping to see him this coming weekend. I've heard that he is in @ Nichols Cryo-genetics. Hoping to see Hard Whiskey also. I've heard that he is in @ Hawkeye/Adel, Ia.

TAKE PICTURES if you can ;D I would like to see some other pictures of him!
 

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I have been around the bull alot last summer and early fall. He is long bodied, long and clean fronted, and has alot of thickness while being very sound and correct for a two year old bull on the road. He is probably a low 6 on frame not small but not real big.  I wouldnt worry too much about him being double bred dream on or sophie, they are both dang good cow families. Line breeding can work and work well. The one calf out of him is a very good march bull calf, he was impressive as was the cow that calf was out of. The question on number is take them for what they worth, numbers with most likely less than .25 accuracy do to being young.  The way i look at it is i could care less if the numbers are low if they are not high accuracy, (if they bring alot of other good things to the table), to people that wouldn't use a bull with slightly low numbers can you really say you would go to a sale looking for a bred heifer or open heifer and not buy one that is almost phenotypically perfect and puts everything together you are looking for except has low numbers and you wouldn't attempt to buy it?
 
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