HerefordGuy said:That is a steer and it was probably a crossbred like all the other show steers we classify into breeds.-XBAR- said:(lol)
Grand Champion steer classified as an Angus, no?-XBAR- said:HerefordGuy said:That is a steer and it was probably a crossbred like all the other show steers we classify into breeds.-XBAR- said:(lol)
No, this is a picture of the Grand Champion ANGUS steer - 1985 Houston Livestock Show
HerefordGuy said:Grand Champion steer classified as an Angus, no?-XBAR- said:HerefordGuy said:That is a steer and it was probably a crossbred like all the other show steers we classify into breeds.-XBAR- said:(lol)
No, this is a picture of the Grand Champion ANGUS steer - 1985 Houston Livestock Show
What are the names and/or registration numbers of the two bulls. I will see if they are in our data base.
HerefordGuy said:Also, an Angus bull being a horned carrier does not prove he is crossbred.
-XBAR- said:Please elaborate on this. I'm under the impression that ALL purebred Angus are Homozygous polled?
cowman 52 said:Cobble pond new yorker, Sek still has semen.
knabe said:Does pine drive big sky type normal?
HerefordGuy said:knabe said:Does pine drive big sky type normal?
knabe! I was waiting for you to chime in.
Yes, we have genotyped Pine Drive Big Sky and he looks very typical of US Angus. We did not see any Angus that looked crossbred. We see an extremely small number of pedigree errors in our data, and no Angus animals appear to be crossbred.
In Shorthorn cattle you can really tell the different populations (Irish Shorthorns, Milking Shorthorns, Maine-Anjou, Lincoln Reds, etc.) apart. We don't see that in Angus.
Cabanha Santa Isabel - BR said:Hot post! (clapping)
Agree with HerefordGuy regarding Way Plantation Angus. A very close inbreed herd became almost homozygous.
HerefordGuy you is right that fake pedigrees occur in low frequencies, agree with you. But if the fake pedigree is from a very popular bull as Big Sky in the Angus or Rodeo Drive in the Shorthorn (are only an examples, I'm not confirming this), this low frequency became a high frequency!
Regarding some personal experiences from many breeders (regarding Big Sky calves, New Yorker and other bulls) I'm afraid, in think that DNA analysis can not be so accurate as I believe!
Hereford Guy do you have DNA analyses about Shorthorns? How breeds were infused others than Maine, Lincoln and Irish. What sires are not really what they claim to be?