aj said:I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?
aj said:All I am saying is that as a 23 year old know it all, I'm not sure you're qualified to carry water for Mr. Sneed. We need 20 more breeders like him in the breed to gain market share.jmo
the truth said:aj said:I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?
Just because the check is for $161,000 doesn't mean its profit... The check could be for a million dollars, but if it doesn't cover the expenses.. I'll tear it in half every day of my life..
I'll have my production sale when the livestock industry does several things...
1- people throw real money around
2- purebreds are worth more than market/ sale barn stuff
3- the show people get their heads unstuck
4- farming in general turns a profit
5- i have the funds to spend thousands on promo, catalogs, sale management, etc.. and can pay those things off..
6- I feel like sharing my genetics. I'd rather kill em all than share them.
and the one that might make the most sense.. this pitiful world we live in turns around, economy wise.
OH Breeder said:the truth said:aj said:I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?
Just because the check is for $161,000 doesn't mean its profit... The check could be for a million dollars, but if it doesn't cover the expenses.. I'll tear it in half every day of my life..
I'll have my production sale when the livestock industry does several things...
1- people throw real money around
2- purebreds are worth more than market/ sale barn stuff
3- the show people get their heads unstuck
4- farming in general turns a profit
5- i have the funds to spend thousands on promo, catalogs, sale management, etc.. and can pay those things off..
6- I feel like sharing my genetics. I'd rather kill em all than share them.
and the one that might make the most sense.. this pitiful world we live in turns around, economy wise.
I am not sure where you are selling stuff but a choice cow here only brings 80 cents lb if your lucky most avaraging 60 cents. Bulls near the same sometimes little higher at 90 cents. Feeder calves at a high 1.21 lb I doubt any those young calves were over 1000#'s. I guess have your sale post the results and then be a critic. You just sound bitter. If you don't like the cattle business get out now it can get alot worse if those are your major concerns. Believe me after 30 years in it I have seen it. :-\
The sales prices I thought were pretty good. I will take his paycheck any day.
I'm sure you do. (angel)peachy said:truth- Where do the show people have their head stuck at? I think the Shorthorns today are the best they have ever been!!!!!!
Those were good cattle and should have been way over market price. We (Shorthorns) have some serious marketing to do! Below are links to three of our local markets this week and our prices are probably lower than the US market. If cows are bringing 80 cents a lb. and 500 lb calves are averaging over $1.50 that's $1700 for a pair.(Assuming 1200 lb cows and 500 lb. calves) The breed needs to get the info to the commercial producer because cattle like Sneed's will work in commercial programs.peachy said:I think he had a damn good sale. Not a real big high seller but from the results nothing brought under $1000. <beer>
the truth said:OH Breeder said:the truth said:aj said:I admire them taking the cattle to the commercial people. It takes guts to sell cattle out there in front of the world. It is not going to be easy to break into the market share. If these cattle get out there and do there job people will be back to get more. Its easy to sit back and sneer and analyze poke the deal but I think its where we have to go as a breed. Get the cattle out in front of people. Damn right I'd take a check for 161,000$. When are you having your production sale the truth?
Just because the check is for $161,000 doesn't mean its profit... The check could be for a million dollars, but if it doesn't cover the expenses.. I'll tear it in half every day of my life..
I'll have my production sale when the livestock industry does several things...
1- people throw real money around
2- purebreds are worth more than market/ sale barn stuff
3- the show people get their heads unstuck
4- farming in general turns a profit
5- i have the funds to spend thousands on promo, catalogs, sale management, etc.. and can pay those things off..
6- I feel like sharing my genetics. I'd rather kill em all than share them.
and the one that might make the most sense.. this pitiful world we live in turns around, economy wise.
I am not sure where you are selling stuff but a choice cow here only brings 80 cents lb if your lucky most averaging 60 cents. Bulls near the same sometimes little higher at 90 cents. Feeder calves at a high 1.21 lb I doubt any those young calves were over 1000#'s. I guess have your sale post the results and then be a critic. You just sound bitter. If you don't like the cattle business get out now it can get alot worse if those are your major concerns. Believe me after 30 years in it I have seen it. :-\
The sales prices I thought were pretty good. I will take his paycheck any day.
I pounded out a shorthorn bull, who was thin, a few months ago, and got more than 1500
I'm sure you do. (angel)peachy said:truth- Where do the show people have their head stuck at? I think the Shorthorns today are the best they have ever been!!!!!!
Suesue said:It takes alot of confidence and gutts to breed a consistant product like RS-
Its true the lbs, uniformity and profit come into play on buyers purchase ( male or female) . Thats the whole point of line breeding. It takes great cattlemen to see the value in this type of program....
I appreciate the endless number of phone calls and sight unseen purchases made through me.
The purebred business needs more full time cattlemen like RS. period
I had a great time at Sulls - Gana Nisely has a beautiful facility. I guess more need to follow the strength and vision of buyers like sull- he definately can see the value in RS?
Sorry about your loss Juliffs-