Freddy said:
I CAN see most of you people are interested in using these bulls that were bred to put on lbs. an work in the white cattle purebred shows ,not show in the clubby deal...If your going to try to slip these sires into the clubbby deal fine some very small moderate cows an try them on those.. Don't try to make them work on a cow that must be bigger than he wants now ....
But since I have the opptunity to talk about good growth cattle an Charolais show cattle I have a bull I would like to show you and some of his proof ....
Freds Progress 7308 is a son of LT RIO BRAVO an out of a Purebred Charolais cow 1412 (F905130) who is out of a IQCR ADVANTAGE 658 an a FREDDY 178
X SCR ROCKY 4117 cows ,who in their days were very good ....
I am really not sure what makes you think firewater, and some of the other bulls mentioned won't work in the clubby deal. I don't know that the conversation ever specified he wanted clubby either. He just wants to moderate his cow, and add some milk. He isn't gonna moderate much with the bull you have pictured. I saw him in Louisville,,beat him too as I showed the reserve bull that day. and reserve female, which was a firewater, and was often commented she wasn't big enough. But thats a story for another day. I think he is looking for suggestions. I guess I never planned on getting into a pissing match, but someone saying my bull won't work in the industry pisses me off. I have seen him work, and work well. The fact that a daughter sold for 50K to a clubby guy I think speaks well for the bull. I guess,this is what I am gonna end with. If you think you have a bull that can outbreed firewater. Proove it. Bring your cattle out and beat his offspring, If you do, I am Happy for you. We are all in the bussiness to try to produce better cattle. And I recall Marc Sneed commenting in another Post, that Firewater was one of the best bulls he had ever pictured.