I already have a pretty good idea of what I want to do, just seeing if steer planet can make me think about it more. I have a Carney Man x angus cow that is very impressive. She is truly a dual purpose female, I don't have any pictures though. Anyways, what i am wanting to do is breed her for females to MAKE club calf producing daughters. I don't want any HW sons etc. Do not care about PHA, that is why Whiskey is my number one choice. She is good sized, not a dink and not a giant. She has perfect feet, udder, neck and is very stout and powerful from the ground up, but still very soft and flexible. She could use a little hair. I was thinking IW and WMW. I know IW won't give me much hair though. Any other good suggestions? Thanks.