I know I'll probably catch a lot of flack on this, but from a standpoint of breeding females I think Heatwave has been a bust. I will not argue that as a terminal cross he puts out a lot of excellent steers and market type heifers but most of the cattlemen I've talked to who have tried keeping his daughters have been very disappointed. In fact, some of his daughters have done very well in the breeding heifer classes but, at least with the people I've talked to, have not made good mothers. I understand I'll probably hear from 20 people who have that "one exceptional heifer" out of Heatwave and congratulations if they do. However, I'll bet most of them will be disappointed down the road if they are looking for a good mother cow. I also think an inordinate number of his offspring stay undersized and while they may look good in the fall will not be adequate when its the most important---as a yearling and beyond. In all fairness, this can probably be said about many of the clubby bulls it just seems to me that Heatwave shows the most dramatic extremes in his calves.