I think the Lim-flex program has a lot to offer to producers to make females. Some of the best yearling heifers I've seen have been lim flex. But that's a very different cross than Simmental x lim. There's a reason Simmental and limousin and Charolais cross well with Angus cattle. They're complementary in type of muscle, structure, stature, feed conversion, and ability to finish across vast portions of their respective gene pools.