I tend to agree...he is a super thick, very nicely boned kinda calf...I really like the natural base width he has...and he is pretty "showy" in his type...but for me to leave one a bull that has no papers he really has to make me say WOW and I cant find any holes...with this guy being out of a commercial cow, and me not knowing the bloodlines on his sire, added to legs that are a little to straight for me...I would have to say that I would also be offering this one as a steer prospect to someone...but thats just my opinion...if he is the type you like to raise then go for it and good luck with him...I would make sure anything he possibly breeds to in the future though is extremely sound and not really worry about their muscle...looks like he may take care of the muscle all by himself!