Thank you again. I think I will call their respective owners because I don't think we will be able to drive out to see them. We have a cow that throws great calves but they get a tick too big and are a little later maturing. We need to take her to a bull that will downsize and make them a little quicker patterned. The reason I am asking about Chopping Wood is I know he is really moderate but I really like MAB also. We own 9 head of cows and we already know who we will use on the other 8.