I don't have much experience with him, we had one calf out of Hired Man this spring and in our case he definitely added frame size, talked with trausch's herd man this spring and before I could tell him what we had he said "it didn't work at all did it." He claims to breed him like you would hannibal and you should come out just fine. Talked with other breeder's this fall at sale time and had a few say they had tried him and would just as soon dump the stuff on the ground. I'd say if you had a cow that hannibal would work on Hired Man would be worth a shot, otherwise in my opinion there are better options for bulls out there. Just my 2 cents.