Lmmi Shorthorn is a real cool cross-at least the ones I saw back in the day.Sales-probably the 2 BEST sales for GOOD Shorthorn bulls that arent TOO involved with political s#%%*()t and will not kill youre cows are-1: Iowa Beef Expo 2: Ohio Beef Expo-I saw some calves at Jay Benhams in Ohio that are low Bw-thick square and go back to Okie Clubby-Mitch on here has a good bull calf,in Iowa although a little hier bW genetics- Brad Davis in Iowa had some really good calves-and had used a bull out of my breeding that has sired a BUNCH of calves in 3 states-they just havent registered many-but ALL low BW-Proven deal on Shorts,Maines,and X breds.His daughters are producing now-from a real clubby CE bull-lotsa color. If you decide upon a sale-or see something and can give me the breeding-I"ll give you the unbiased-and I know of pockets of real good honest cattle that arent in the fast lane-limelight. My partners have a hiefer bull whose EPDS are now getting where they should be-and with several green hiefers selling over $5000 last fall.-He was run so hard that he doesnt look like much-but he goes back to clubby and old maine-and having sired at least 50 calves-is proven low bw-and Hed work on limmies-not sure theyd sell him-but there may be a good calf O0