Had one last year. He was 92 lb but came unassisted. Nice calf! Do not look for the bull to clean up their front ends any, but plenty of power, tons of guts, and enough bone. The calf I had was dark red but so was his grand dam on his mommas side. I would reccomend him but sorry no good picks of the calf. He really did not come into himself untill he was about 450lb.