I did a mature picture and video of this bull last week. I am probably considered prejudice about this bull as he is out of one of my donors, but I own none of him. He was out of some embryos we sold out of Aunt Bea. The bull looks phenominal, ultra sound, tremendously thick and great looking from a profile standpoint. I will get to that photo soon and put it up on here. He will certainly work on Angus cows. I believe he is one of the few club calf oriented bulls that can be used strongly in a commercial situation. In talking with some ABS Reps last week it was discussed that he can actually go that way. His calves are really big bellied and ultra sound, very maternal. I would not be afraid to use this bull with any concerns. I am not sure they are freaky enough, unless bred to a market heifer that is extreme to raise that freak, but they are really complete and good cattle after seeing two calf crops out of him.