To be honest, I'm not seeing that much wrong with the bull. I see him as being a complete good structured bull that carries a little extra skin up front, which to mention it is being picky. I think it's a case of PPL being use to seeing clipped up, heavily groomed bulls in the videos done by professional videographers. PPL want to see if the bulls can/will perform, but as soon as a person feeds one harder, the bull gets criticized for being too fat and not be able to move as freely as we may like. To me he's defiantly a very good bull. Whether or not a person could move much semen on him, that would have to be determined down the road a ways. There are so many great bulls to choose from already. JMHO.