He certainly didn't add any leather for me. I used him two years in a row and out of maybe 20 head I still don't have him pegged as far as what he really clicks on. Calves are very stout and structure can be a concern. The open show ND state fair champion steer was an unsub. I will try to attach a photo of a bred we sold if I can find out how.
I guess my only observation is that last year we saw quite a few samples of calves in the online sales. This year we haven't really seen very many if any.