I have seen Firewater cows out working and seem to making great cows, purebred and for clubbys alike. One of the differences I first think of is Firewater is a purebred so you would get 1/2 bloods you could register where as Troubadour is 3/4 so no papers if you use him on something other than Chars. I think they both cross well though. I used Troubadour on 2 shorthorns and a Meyer/Angus and got a steer sold for a county show and kept both heifers. Havnt seen any Troubs as cows yet.