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red

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OK, although not blonde I'm having one of those moments. Where do you find the paperwork for the MAPP program?
Also how many memebers have signed up for it? I'd like to be able to get EPD's so that's why I'm signing up.

Red  :)))
 

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me too but I don't think it right to have to pay for them. they should come with the papers. I heard they are doing doing this to get rid of the maine tainers.
 

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showcattlegal said:
me too but I don't think it right to have to pay for them. they should come with the papers. I heard they are doing doing this to get rid of the maine tainers.
Whats the heifer in your picture? She looks neat!
 

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Red I copied it off the web page for AMAA.

I have not sent my paper work in, either.  But will for the same reason you say.... but if you do not choose to participate it will actually cost you more to register you calf and you will get less for the money, NO EPD's.

Other breeds now have an assessment on those registered livestock in your heard.  It is another tax.
 

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I found it under the Special News. Hubby faxing application in today. My question is, can we just enter certain cows or does it have to be whole herd? That would get mighty expensive if so.

Red
 

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I agree that we do need them to sale our cattle I just don't think it's right to pay for them. The heifer in the pic is a sun seeker x puttin on the ritz (Endangered Species x Foreplay) I sold her in the sidwell and Gabel sale a couple of weeks ago. She went to texas.
 

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Dear AMAA & AJMAA members,
In preparation for two new and exciting programs please take a few minutes and read the enclosed
materials.
As explained in the March/April issue of the Voice magazine, the Maine-Anjou Performance Program
(MAPP) will be fully under way beginning January 1, 2009. Prior to that date several steps need to be
completed so that the program can run as effectively as possible.
<For those who plan to participate you will need to clip out and return the enclosed form.
< Once we receive the clipping, the AMAA will send out herd inventories to MAPP participants.
Each breeder will update their lists and return to the AMAA by September 1, 2008.
REMEMBER, EPD’S WILL ONLY BE PROVIDED TO THOSE THAT PARTICIPATE IN
MAPP.
Any questions, please contact John Boddicker at the AMAA office.
Maine-Anjou Performance Program
(MAPP)
In our recent travels MAPP has been embraced very enthusiastically by those we have discussed it with.
The opportunity for the breed to gain a higher predictability of genetic value is a very positive and
welcome sight. Leading up to the January 1, 2009 program inception date some preliminary exchange of
information will be requested of the AMAA membership. Your timely and accurate response to each
mailing will help the process tremendously.
A MAPP participant will:
< receive epd’s on registered progeny
< if not registered but data reported, may request a performance pedigree @ $10 per head
< if not registered but reported, data will be a part of AMAA performance program but not available
to breeder
A non MAPP participant will:
< not receive epd’s on registered progeny
January 1, 2009 registration fee schedule:
MAPP Participant Breeder’s Choice (non-participant)
Under 13 months $20 $30
13-23 months $25 $35
24 months and over $50 $60
Reported Active
Females for 2009 $0
2010 and beyond $5
204 Marshall Rd.• P.O. Box 1100 • Platte City, MO 64079-1100 • (816) 431-9950 • Fax (816) 431-9951
E-mail: [email protected] • www.maine-anjou.org
AMERICAN MAINE-ANJOU ASSOCIATION
Before you make the decision to be a non-participant please realize the possible long term draw backs,
i.e.:
< you will lose some potential buyers to programs that offer MAPP data as a part of the pedigree.
This will happen!
< future rules of expo and national sales that will require MAPP data in order to sell
< ability to qualify for bull test sales
< critical loss of time regarding accuracy of data for your herd
Maine-Anjou Performance Program regulations:
1. All registered Maine-Anjou and MaineTainer females are included in the MAPP program.
Registered females of another breed or commercial females will not be charged the active
female fee.
2. A member’s registered active female herd can only be a part of either MAPP or Breeder’s
Choice, not both.
3. A member’s herd must be enrolled in MAPP in order to attain epd’s on progeny. (If all AMAA
performance criteria is met)
4. Enrollment forms will be sent in early summer of each year with a noted date of return.
5. For those members that did enroll in MAPP, inventories will be sent in late summer with a
noted date of return. A penalty of $50 will apply to those inventories returned after posted
deadline.
6. Invoicing and payment of MAPP active females will take place in January of each year.
(Remember that in 2009 the active female fee will be waived)
7. When a herd is enrolled in MAPP, an active female must be enrolled in order to transfer.
8. Stated registration and transfer fees will apply to progeny of MAPP females.
9. Non-registered progeny data will be a part of the system but not available to breeder unless the
breeder requests a performance pedigree at a cost of $10 per animal.
10. A reactivation fee of $50 per animal applies only when cattle are declared on the MAPP
inventory, dropped and then reactivated.
11. Multiple-owned females must be on each individual member’s inventory in order to register
progeny.
12. One of the following must be received at the AMAA office for each female inventory:
a. A calf record, inclusive of AMAA performance record requirements.
b. A disposal code on the cow.
c. A calving code for non-live calves.
13. When a female is purchased from a herd participating in the Breeder’s Choice program by a
herd participating in MAPP, the MAPP member must pay the current year annual active fee
($5) in order to activate the female on inventory list.
Without a doubt there will be situations that are unforeseen and will need to be handled on a one-toone
basis. In immediate situations the Executive Vice-President will be called to make the decision.
The American Maine-Anjou Board of Directors recognizes that change does not always come easily
but truly believes that MAPP offers breed stability along with long-term growth and a wider arena for
Maine-Anjou genetic acceptance.
BREEDER’S CHOICE & MAPP PROGRAM COSTS
MAPP BC
Dues
Annual Dues $100 $100
Annual Junior Dues $25 $25
Registration Costs
Under 13 mths $20 $30
13 – 23 mths $25 $35
24 mths and older $50 $60
Transfer Costs
Within 60 days of sale $15 $15
Over 60 days of sale $30 $30
Performance Pedigree $10 N/A
**All other AMAA costs apply in all cases to all programs.
CLIP & RETURN
THIS FORM TO AMAA
All active AMAA and AJMAA members must designate their membership as Breeder’s Choice
or Maine-Anjou Performance Program (MAPP). Enrollment in MAPP will not take place until this
form is completed. Please return no later than Sept. 1, 2008. Please carefully read through the
enclosed guidelines.
Place an “X” next to the option you want for your membership for 2009.
FOR YEAR 2009
( ) BREEDER’S CHOICE
( ) MAINE-ANJOU PERFORMANCE PROGRAM (MAPP)
____________________
Active Breeder Number
________________
Signature
 

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red said:
I found it under the Special News. Hubby faxing application in today. My question is, can we just enter certain cows or does it have to be whole herd? That would get mighty expensive if so.

Red
Therein lies the BIG question.  I called in to get some answers and was never able to get an answer so I am not going that route.  From what I understand it is an all or nothing deal, we use about 25 % of our herd each year for recips and they couldn't tell me what to do with them or how those would work, until they have some hard answers I'll stick with what I have, I find EPD's absolutely useless in the Maine breed anyway, JMO.  I find it hard to believe they will ever get rid of the Maintainer program, that generates a lot of their revenue.
 

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Jill said:
red said:
I found it under the Special News. Hubby faxing application in today. My question is, can we just enter certain cows or does it have to be whole herd? That would get mighty expensive if so.

Red
Therein lies the BIG question.  I called in to get some answers and was never able to get an answer so I am not going that route.  From what I understand it is an all or nothing deal, we use about 25 % of our herd each year for recips and they couldn't tell me what to do with them or how those would work, until they have some hard answers I'll stick with what I have, I find EPD's absolutely useless in the Maine breed anyway, JMO.  I find it hard to believe they will ever get rid of the Maintainer program, that generates a lot of their revenue.

if we have to do whole herd I'll be doing a lot of culling this spring!
Does anyone keep their inventory up to date on the web site? W/ a small herd I am pretty much current. I'm wondering if they'll go by that?

Red
 

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You do not have to do your entire herd, BUT if you later decide to use one previously not on the list you will have to open the pocketbook to get it up to date.  I have decided to go ahead and do my entire herd this year and next year I will declare a change, as most of my cattle are heifers or have their second calf.  I sold my older ones this summer due to the drought.
 

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