TPX said:You know we tested bulls last early last year for th and it took us five months to get the results back and it wasnt for a lack of trying on our part lots of phone calls none returned and lots of emails none returned. I have heard of this happening to lots of people and I just wonder if its b/c we are from canada or what but I dont understand why he doesnt put more effort into it. If he didnt have a monopoly we would go some where else but since there is no where else we are thinking of getting out of the shorthorns.
TPX said:I geuss I would rather pay more money and get my results back in decent time. It was no trouble for our package to get down there and the test was done in two weeks b/c that is what the stamp said but then after that I took that long to get the results back through the mail. My question is why no one would answer the call or emails. The reason that we look a getting out of shorthorns is cause we got in at the wrong time when alot of people were selling cattle that they were having problems with but looked like good cattle. We had a very good breeder come look at our herd this year and said that they were the best claves that he had seen till he found out all the defects that we got thus making our animals worthless. We just dont see the point in dumping more money into this herd and taking many years to clean it up. By the way we do have red angus and our assoc is very good at tracking problems if you have a problem calf and report it they will pay to get tests done and dont say that the shorthorn breeders didnt sweep th and pha under the rug for many years.
justintime said:There are some major differnences between the US and Canada:
(1) US breeders are still in a herd building mode, whereas in Canada, most established breeders are saturated with cows. This is partly due to the BSE situation and the border closure to the US for breeding stock.
(2) the US is far more show oriented. If the US had as few shows to exhibit at, there would not be much market for as many show quality animals. Because of the major emphasis on show heifers, more THC heifer calves will sell in the US. My experience is that it is not much difference in selling THC bred femalesbetween both countries. You can still sell a few exceptional females that are THC but if they are just average, they are a real hard sell in either the US or Canada. I have seen many pretty decent THC bred heifers and cows sell at US sales for pretty low dollars. Breeders will consider a carrier female if she has a great production record, but if they have nothing special to offer, they are hard to sell wherever they are.
( 3) There are many more Junior events in the US and therefore the competition gets pretty incredible. Those who want their kids to be in the winner's circle, will overlook the fact that a heifer is a carrier, as the show career is much more important that the breeding career.
(4) In the US, more breeders breed show animals. In Canada, more breeders show breeding animals. This is mainly due to the fact that the main shows are only the Majors held in the fall. In W. Canada, many of the summer shows have disappeared. This is due to many reasons but mainly due to travel costs and the shortage of farm labour. Most farms are getting larger and larger in size and most people are limited in what they can do.
TPX said:As far as shipping blood across the border we havent had a problem we have always shipped it with fedex and were able to track it and it always made it to the lab within the week cause we always test on a monday to try and get it there within the week. I would like to comment on the fact that we did ship our tests when it was a busy season for them such as bull sale season and I am sure like you guys said that some big orders got done faster b/c of volume. To me this just seems wrong I seen no place on the form to pay more to get the test done faster so if we are all paying the same amount why should one guy get his tests done faster then another guy and if thats the case then what to young breeders like us do when we onley have a few samples to send since we are just getting started. To me this seems like you are just cahse new breeders away by not helping them out the same way you do the older breeders. I will say this though that I do know this isnt the only business that the little/young guy gets the short end of the stick.