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knabe

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nice angus bull.


there were way more simmental and gelbvieh than any other breed in the catalog.


sorta shows the focus of the cattle industry back then to address midget cattle still around.
 

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Here was a USA antidote to midget cattle from 1965. I heard they called Bonanza of Wye the bull that turned Montana black. My pedigree research on the DM version of myostatin condition in Angus indicates his maternal grand sire, Geordus, was a carrier. No DNA test to back that up, however and its not a very popular topic . Geordus was a paternal half brother to George of Swiftbrook. Their sire, Prince Paul of Bartleby was an Irish bull, sourced on a quest to restore growth and muscle to the breed with imported genetics.
 

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You mean Angus aren't pure?  They had to go to Ireland to get their improvement?  Did the Irish Angus have a pedigree or was it like the Irish Shorthorn that goes back to "Foundation"?  Did the Irish Angus work better than the Holstein, Maine, Chi, or Limmy to get what they wanted?
 

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oakview said:
You mean Angus aren't pure?  They had to go to Ireland to get their improvement?  Did the Irish Angus have a pedigree or was it like the Irish Shorthorn that goes back to "Foundation"?  Did the Irish Angus work better than the Holstein, Maine, Chi, or Limmy to get what they wanted?
oakview, you show instant perception of something the Angus devotees of this strain refuse to consider. A couple of rich Americans went to Ireland to source authentic Angus genetics and come back with cows bred to this bull that looks for all the world like a Galloway cross. I call him Prince Paul of Blarney. I can imagine all the fun the Irish had selling growth genetics to these dudes. Or maybe the dudes knew exactly what they were doing. I read that it was the importation of cheap Irish cattle that ruined the market for Shorthorn store cattle in Scotland. The only way to make money became to fatten the Irish cattle. Everything was all crossed up to lend heterosis. Anyway, I misspelled his name, it is Prince Paul of Barnoldby. These are just my assumptions and conclusions which, as usual, are vexing to some. Check out the musculature.
 

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