oakview, you show instant perception of something the Angus devotees of this strain refuse to consider. A couple of rich Americans went to Ireland to source authentic Angus genetics and come back with cows bred to this bull that looks for all the world like a Galloway cross. I call him Prince Paul of Blarney. I can imagine all the fun the Irish had selling growth genetics to these dudes. Or maybe the dudes knew exactly what they were doing. I read that it was the importation of cheap Irish cattle that ruined the market for Shorthorn store cattle in Scotland. The only way to make money became to fatten the Irish cattle. Everything was all crossed up to lend heterosis. Anyway, I misspelled his name, it is Prince Paul of Barnoldby. These are just my assumptions and conclusions which, as usual, are vexing to some. Check out the musculature.oakview said:You mean Angus aren't pure? They had to go to Ireland to get their improvement? Did the Irish Angus have a pedigree or was it like the Irish Shorthorn that goes back to "Foundation"? Did the Irish Angus work better than the Holstein, Maine, Chi, or Limmy to get what they wanted?