Im pretty sure rusty and sam can attest or comment on him but the cow he is out of is the mother to smilin bob which is a 3D X Charolais cow. She is called foxy moxie and marks her calves they are all pretty dang good. I had the pleasure of seein captain in the flesh and he is one that is worth trying on the freak cows. In my opinion he could use a little more expression/power in the lower quarter but other than that he is ideal for most our cattle, freak fronted, sound footed, colored right for slickin cattle, and great boned! A close friend has put him on many different types and the first one to hit the ground was a heifer calf not very big but mousy smoke colored and bronkled faced out of a gert X cow. This is one bull to try if you a looking for a complete calf or dont know what to put on your cows because I think there will be some cool ones down the road on him.