I have been using Clubby bulls for about 3 years now and have been really happy with some and dissappointed in alot. I know that alot of people seem to want bulls that downsize but in our area (WA) the judges seem to hate the small framed steers. I have sold some steers to kids that turned out great (well finished, appropriate weight) but did poorly due to frame score. Since many of the bulls being promoted say nothing about frame scores, what are some bulls that will produce more moderately framed, attractive looking steers?