Seems like steerjockey is reputable, has great cattle, and a lot of things going for him. However, some methods, posts, etc. just rub people the wrong way as they come off in print on the forum. Part of learning I guess. There are a lot of us out here window shopping, kicking tires, lookey looing and watching marketing methods that do or do not work. Someone has to provide the entertainment. Keep up the hard work, but take the criticism with a grain of salt. I was kinda annoyed by the post that "hey I have a great one, but it's a secret as to who or what he is." If you want to market on here, just be up front what you are marketing. Oh well this thread was entertaining. Good luck with your bull.