some day, americans will hold environmentalists to account for not allowing thinning, logging etc. with the super fires almost being the norm, it is a crying shame that trees that harvest CO2 can't be guaranteed a use that will tie up the carbon and instead must be used for a forest fire. zero tolerance is no longer an answer. when federal and state law only encourage encroachment of tillable land by rivers and poor bridge design which catch debris during a flood, it's past time to hold environmentalists to account for this as well as a policy which has turned this nation into a net importer of food. california is an importer of milk supposedly if you can believe that with the largest herd i believe of any state. we are almost out of water, just like georgia, yet we keep letting people into this country both legally and illegally. the tipping point has already been passed. all we are waiting on is the breaking point. some forests will never recover. just saw that stupid report on 60 minutes last night about forest fires by the actor/reporter who has a professional outrage look on his face. can't believe NOT ONE word out of his mouth about logging, thinning etc. some of these forests now provide no shade and their replacement, bare dirt, will only add to global warming which environmentalists are unaware they are causing as well as the earth's rotational axis and the sun's output. will the american public do anything? no, they are too worried about election returns that guarantee the personality cult. consensus, smensus, and to quote a democratic rally cry, "it's time for them to go"