Funny, but sad & true!

[LN]

After the Virginia Tech shootings some students at my unversity were wanting to be able to carry concealed weapons on campus to protect themselves if an incident like that ever happened. However, I can't say that I would want that because accidents happen, and I don't like the idea of students walking around campus with guns in their backpacks.

 

[knabe]

accidents happen

over 40,000 death accidents on the highway occur every year.
13 deaths occur every day at the hands of illegal aliens (4745/yr), i think 7/day is from drunk driving illegal aliens.
29,200 die from guns, which include those deaths in defense, which should be a different category of lives saved and reduce the 29k#.

personally, i don't see why one death should deserve more outrage than another.

why there isn't a movement to outlaw cars is beyond me. 

but... of course there is, bullet trains, public transit, legislating cars to be prohibitively expensive by any means necessary.

politicians will always use created tragedy to push an agenda of control.

there must be no individual liberty at the expense of what's good for "everyone" or because "it's the right thing to do for society".

individual liberty is at stake and we are being distracted from it's elimination.

 

[kimbaljd]

What worries me these days is how terrible young people's grammar and writing has become. I work with a youth organization and their composition skills are pitiful. I know part of it is to blame on texting and instant messenger, but do they even teach this in school anymore?

AMEN!!! You can usually tell if a comment on here is written by a kid. Spelling and grammer is horrible out of our kids these days.

 

[CPL]

As someone who currently attends school and watches hostage situations on the news whenever it arises I'm glad that schools have strictened up there policies. Yeah 99% of the people at school would never intentionally kill someone, its the 1% you have to worry about. So I have no problems with them banning guns on gov't property(schools, court houses, etc) as a measure of safety.

I to watch those on tv, but all you have to do is think "do those people really care about the rules or laws" If I am going to go into a school or somewhere else with the intent to do harm to someone I don't think that I will really care that I am not allowed to have a gun in school.  All of the situations that involved guns in school the people didn't do it after being there all day with the gun.  This is the same reason that banning guns WOULD NOT make us any safer.  A criminal with a gun and knows that you don't will attack you more often than if they think that you might be packing. 

No I agree, Banning guns for the general purpose would not make us saver. But I know that if I see a kid walk into school with a gun or even talk about having a gun that something real bad is to happen and I need to get to safety NOW.

If kids (I'm talking high schoolers under 18 not college) were allowed to bring guns on school campus that is the last thing I'd want is an un-trained kid risking his life to try and save the school. There is a reason why cops must be trained before they are accepted in the service. Just like the military has boot camp.

I personally would not like to walk into school tommorrow--- look to the left and see a stranger carrying a gun and then look to the right and see a stranger carrying a gun. and would also not like to go into the restroom alone with someone whom I don't know (or even know very well) who's carrying a gun.

Let me say I am also in favor of having a police officer at the high school. But I'm sorry you ARE NOT going to convince me a 16 year old kid who is going through the ups and downs of adolesences should have a loaded gun at school and I'm about as conservative as they come.

 

[CPL]

Sorry, I guess I took another post that was meant to be funny out of context again. I have a problem of doing that.

If the purpose of this thread was to show how society has changed and how people have changed then I support it.

If the purpose of this thread was to support high school kids to have guns on campus then I do have a problem with it.

I guess I'm just a little to sensitive to the subject because about 6 months ago we had a scare in our school that a kid had a gun in his duffle bag and was showing it to people.

 

[knabe]

when i was in junior high in 1973, a kid brought a .38 to school.  it was pretty scary as he was waving it around.

i'm for personnel other than police on campus with serious firearms training.

i want kids or anyone else who think they may "need" to kill people to know that they don't know who has a gun and that the public is prepared to use lethal force against them to protect my daughter and other kids.

it simply takes too long for the police to react and it costs too much to put police on campus. 

some people need to know that the public will protect itself.  the threshold has gotten too low, and with noam chomsksy basically stating that defending one's self is not right, i am for one, not falling for his heavily veiled message that the west needs to be eliminated.

yes, i would deny/revoke chomsky's passage to the US.

murder and gun violence has gone up in britain since citizens are not allowed to have guns.

 

[Steer Boy 101]

To me the school is a small city. Campus maybe more of a small city. In Wisconsin you are alowed to carry a weapon as long as it does not have a round in the champer and is visable for people to see. How can  kids of age to carry a gun threw the city or town or what ever you wanna say and  but not threw school? Its not different than the city it self, ITS MORE TARGETED IMO. We have a plenty big school and i dont like all the Illegals we have in there, how do i know? they express and point it out all the time they came up wiht mom and dad or w.e and are mexican and want there rights in AMERICA to be just like where ever they were before and if you dont agree on one little thing they dont like you too much. We have cops involved for everything. You throw a stone at someone and you just commeted assult and are fined suspened and carry on, go to court and the whole 9 yards. To me when someone messes wtih you or threatens to kill you thats just one more reason to carrie a knife or gun on ya.

 

[knabe]

called your elected representatives, especially your US senators and representatives as the are responsible for the illegals, not your state elected officials?

registered to vote?

active in your party of choice?

 

[farmboy]

guns in school? hell no

 

[farmboy]

could you imagine the johnny badass who is in the d class who dosnt do his work and always picking fights bringing a gun to school. i would drop out before that ever happened

 

[Davis Shorthorns]

Sorry, I guess I took another post that was meant to be funny out of context again. I have a problem of doing that.

If the purpose of this thread was to show how society has changed and how people have changed then I support it.

If the purpose of this thread was to support high school kids to have guns on campus then I do have a problem with it.

I guess I'm just a little to sensitive to the subject because about 6 months ago we had a scare in our school that a kid had a gun in his duffle bag and was showing it to people.

First off in a high school I don't believe that they should be able to have guns, but look at things at a case by case basis.  To me a kid that forgets a gun in his truck is completely different than someone bringing a gun to school and waving it around.  When I was a Freshman we had a kid do that with a handgun and he was expelled.  I have no problems with that, but you have to look at it case by case.  A kid that goes and asks a teacher if he is allowed to have a leatherman obviously didn't have any harmfull intent.  

 

[knabe]

here's probably something better to worry about.

caution: partisan

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjcyODIyZGM2MGU1ZDdkNDgxZDc3OTNjYjM4ZDY1ODI=#leftwing

most of the stuff seems like it should be in the regular budgetary process instead of an emergency where some budgets are actually doubled like the park system and the US army core of engineers.

oh well.

The great French economist Frédéric Bastiat called politics “the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.”

and,

$79 billion for State Fiscal Stabilization Fund  which is a fund to take money from one state who was responsible and give it to another that wasn't, hint california.

i think california is going to get at least 20 billion of this, that's 25%.  the rest of you states are pathetic, california is awesome.  we rock with overspending.  we are 45 billion in debt right now with an annual budget of 110 billion.  come on, catch up, it's all free, and we need more as our projected deficit next year is another 20billion in the hole.